I8UR4RD

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wondering what other people think ill make as far as power


car is a black 2002 trans am ws6


AES 390ci-- (9:3 compression)
F1-A procharger with a 3.9 pulley (max boost @ 7000rpm)
PRC 237 heads 68cc chambers
E85 fuel
FIC 2000 injectors
Vengeance Racing Fast 102
Nick Williams 102 TB
Texas Speed 1 & 7/8 headers with an electronic cutout
Jakes Stage 5 4l80e
Circle D 3600 triple disc
3:70 gears
MWC custom fab 9''
Brutespeed Blower Cam 232/240 .595/.608 115lsa

ATI (1300hp race) front mount intercooler
Alkycontrol methanol.


we will not be conservative with this tune. all parts listed are brand new.

Tirefire

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850-900 rwhp 750 rwtq. I hope man I have same combo.

brians91formula

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E85 and Meth? WOW! I'd expect at least 900whp. I could be wrong though.

ajrothm

With a 7.65 crank pulley and 3.90 blower pulley, I calculate your impeller speed at 74,146 rpms at 7000 crank rpms. Definitely over speeding it a bit..>Damn sure maxing it out.

You have a good engine combo (although I would have liked it to be 10.0-1 comp but...).... I think you'll make a sure 850rwhp thru a 4l80e with the converter locked. Without the converter locked its a crap shoot as to what it will make..... Stall converters getting hit with a bunch of power do screwy stuff on chasis dynos.

I would be satisfied with anything in the 800-850 rwhp range realistically....

You have enough power to run 8.90s in a well sorted chasis with a better converter. (at 3600lbs).. (although your car is probably heavier then that by a little...

I8UR4RD

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well im taking weight out as soon as I get it back I will immediately remove the rear seats etc...the a/c comprssor, condensor, fan etc...is gone...egr is gone....air pump is gone....

and that stuff is to just mainly offset the added weight of the iron block and 4l80e.

I wanted my compression at 9:7 but ended up getting 9:3 somehow. engine was built by a sponsor so....not sure why they didnt get smaller chambers on the build. youd think someone paying 8-9grand for a longblock could get the comp ratio they want. but im not pulling them and shipping them etc...i just want the thing back right now.

If it does not run the times I want I am selling the whole kit for a 91mm. and a2w. with eboost. swear to god. if this hits 800-850 ill just throw a 175 shot on for when **** gets deep.

but yeah hoping raceweight will be around 3300-3400 one day.

yeah you calculated the rpm right....actually only going to turn 6900 and something. i have it written down. it came out to 73,9xx lol.

hopefully the e85 and cutout plus the truck intake and larger headers will help get me past the 825 mark. thanks for the input.

Tirefire

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Well it better make more than 700 rwhp...

David@Vengeance

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I would think that 850rwhp and 700ft/lbs of torque would be easily obtainable. Good luck with the build and if there is anything we can help you with don't hesitate to give us a call.

fatmat80

I think you will meet your whp numbers but even if they are a little lower than that you will still have one hell of a ride on your hands. 800+rwhp in a stalled auto should be quite a handfull on the street, im sure it will put a smile on your face and a frown on ur compititions!!!

Good luck!! and I hope you see your magic numbers!!!

Also I remember reading a post on here where a guy is making 800+ rwhp with an F1-C/347 combo..

eb02z06

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I had a similar combo about 5 years ago, 402, 10:1 CR, custom cam, AFR 225's, LS6 intake 75mm TB, 91 pump and meth, through a auto.

I pullied it up to max just for ***** and giggles. Torque came on like a turbo.

Badass little blower.

I8UR4RD

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^ that is amazing tq.

I8UR4RD

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yeah my buddy josepy has a 347 f1c and it made 810 on a mustang dyno. it is a beast for sure. its mostly a street car so you wont see any times most likely.

fatmat80

Times dont make my world go round..I know blasphamy on this site..There are too many driving and track variables to let 1/4 times dictate whether or not you have a solid combo or not. I like to see 1/4 mile mph and seat of the pants feel on the street.. Its not an exact science but I like it and it works for me..

Thats the car and thread I was talking about..Sounds like a handfull!!
You should make atleast as much power as him..

I8UR4RD

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hopefully so! because the way i see it. if i make what he makes, and thru the 80e etc...like you said 800-850 a4 horsepower is alot different from the same from a 6 speed

fatmat80

who said that, no not me...

lol

Goodluck on hitting that number!! And plese post an incar video of a street pull!! Im actually considering pulling the trigger on an auto swap..

ddnspider

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I8UR4RD

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thought id post a few vids of similar setups. i know a few specs on some of these.



this car has 10:7 compression.

fatmat80

I8urford are there any updates on ur setup?

I8UR4RD

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well...i found out I can spin the motor a lil higher and ProC said not to be afraid if it over spins by 50-100 really. i was thinking 72k was the max. but for right now, I have a garage being built (30x30 with a 45x30 slab) this car is getting so nice and My Caddy V is sitting outside all the time. I want to get it detailed this spring, and repaint the WS6 and keep them mint.

anyways....i just delivered about 7k worth of parts to my performance shop. we are just waiting on tax time to come around so I can grab my transmission, pop in the dual 340's, and since its already tuned for a D1 and 60lb injectors we will fire it up on 93 octane and should be able to break it in on the dyno with only a few minor adjustments. Timing as of right now is 17* with methanol, 11.2 AFR, and plenty of fuel. I dont have any VE tables or anything to post. Ill be getting them this go around for people to inspect and critique.

I am just going to go grab 15 gallons of e85, swap the oil and let the ****** eat.

Oh yea, I also decided to go with PTC instead of circle D since they are local to me and offer the same product at a better price , plus if its not right i can drive up there and raise hell. Instead of a 3600 I will be going 4000 to get me closer to my peak tq and help me with my 60 foot.

I am also about to take some time off work, go up there, and tape off the bay and remove the HVAC and try to attempt to spray the engine bay down and clear it.


I had all the valve covers and radiator cover powder coated....and I am trying to see if Tally will send me a HVAC delete cover plate since he obviously has a template from doing his. I am ordering a kurt urban vapor kit this month, as well as a second passenger side valve cover since it has the oil cap/funnel and I can run another breather there. I am not confident in hardly anyones PCV routing ideas, there is just too much speculation on what works. So I am just going to make sure it vents as good as it can.


thats about it for an update other than Jakes performance says for the time being on my 10 bolt ...i should be able to just swap the yolk/linkage or whatever to make the driveshaft length fit. long enough to get me to the dyno. I know it wont last long after that and I do not plan on busting it.

MWC will still most likely be building it for me. Lighter than a 10 bolt and hardly any parasitic loss. Fantastic product....just takes so long to get. but hey, i have waited this long.

eb02z06

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I can't say anything bad about Circle D but I can't wait to see how your PTC stall works. They really know there stuff.

redcam622

I would have steered you to the lower compression as well..if it was turbocharged i would have put it at 10 to 1..but supercharged is much safer with a bit less because boost is available right away..make power with timing and boost..dont need cyl. pressure to spool.