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I know some of you guys have been waiting to see these results and I will say I am quite pleased with them. First things I'd like to point out; if you've seen the dyno results I just posted for the FD RX7 with the same exact LS2 engine as this one you'll realize just how power robbing a GTO drive train really is. The LS2 FD RX7 just made 448rwhp/430rwtq on the same dyno yesterday SAE corrected with a slightly larger cam(231/238 113+3) stock heads, stock compression and a Fast 92/92 set-up. When you see the results from this GTO with CNC'd 243 heads, stock intake and a 227/235 110+3 cam it will become very clear that GTO's are not known for big dyno numbers! Also our dyno isn't the happiest Dyno Jet in the world as well. I like to consider it realistic.

This car has 1x3/4" headers, the stock LS2 intake and TB. It also has cats on it still. With 1x7/8" headers and no cats I'd expect it to gain at least 10rwhp if not 15rwhp and 5-8rwtq. Anyways on to the modifications:

2006 GTO
Stock LS2 shortblock
Stock LS2 intake and tb
Advanced Induction 232cc 243 castings with stock valve's and 1cc mill for 11.22:1 SCR and 8.87:1 DCR.
Tick Performance Saturday Night Special Stage 2 "TorqueMAX" camshaft (227/235 .614"/.621" 110+3)
Brian Tooley Platinum Springs w/ 7.400" push rods
1x3/4" headers
3" X-pipe with high flow cats
3" Magnaflow exhaust

SAE corrected numbers:


STD corrected numbers:


No that is not valve float at the end of pull #8. The MAF was doing something funny up top and leaning out causing the sharp drop in power. Pull #10 was with the MAF turned off and the problem remedied itself. We have since fixed the issue.

The car is a blast to drive and 415rwtq@3500rpm sure feels nice! With a Fast intake this thing would be well over 465-470rwhp SAE with a 227 degree intake duration camshaft!

Ryne @ CMS

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nice numbers, i really like Ai's cylinder heads, i also like that cam grind

Sales@Tick

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Thanks Ryan! For a heavy car it will scoot for sure. I love how this cam pulls and doesn't stop all the way to 7k.

therat1989

Looks right in line with what I was expecting. Upgrading the Intake will really take advantage of the ported heads. Hopefully mine can be dropped off soon. If only I could make payments on performance parts haha.

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Matt,

With your cam have a later intake valve closing event, and an earlier exhaust valve open event, it stands to reason that you will be making slightly more power than this set-up. You also have an off road X-pipe compared to his catted X-pipe. You also have an OTR intake where as he does not. You also have a ported intake where as, once again he does not. You also have 1x7/8" headers correct?

Here is a video of the car idling at operating temperature. I also made a point of videoing the engine bay to show how quiet this cam is. I know some customers with our TorqueMAX cams have said that the valve train is louder than they expected. All of the TorqueMAX cams we have installed aside from one were quiet as a church mouse just like this one is.

therat1989

Thunderbolt cats welded in. 1 3/4 SLP longtubes. The otrcai and ported intake should help. We will find out really soon. Ill give ya a call tommorow.

Raoul-Duke

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One happy GOAT!!!

Rise of the Phoenix

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So where the heads milled down to 63cc?

mac62989

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Impressive results. It looks like the 232cc doesnt lose anything down low.

35thAnniversaryPhil

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Martin, I am sure everybody out there is dying to see what this cam with a proper set of heads(PRC/AFR) and ALL the supporting mods on a LS1 will make.

What do you think Martin;

02 F-BODY with 92mm throttle body, 92 FAST intake, PRC heads milled for 11.0:1 compresion, 7000RPM, 1 7/8" long tubes, no CATS, GMMG exhaust?

What will be the difference with the stage 3?

Thank you!

Rise of the Phoenix

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It's already been done. There is a guy running this exact cam (which I have as well) with TEA Stage 3 heads, milled to 63cc with an aftermarket intake and I believe he's making damn near 470 rwhp. I don't think it gets much more "PROPER" than Advanced Induction. They have proven they make just as much, or in many cases, more, HP than aftermarket castings.

I am actually going to be ordering the Advanced Induction Dart/RHS CNC'd 223cc heads to go with this cam, which is already installed. I will be running this with my stock LS6 intake with all the other mods in my signature and I'm expecting to make very close to 450 rwhp.

muttstang

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Wow good numbers! Those heads and cam work quite well together! An intake and exhaust change would put it way up there...

Yes I would agree with Pheonix..AI makes some of the best heads out there so I think is cam is "properly" set up!

Good work Martin!

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Oh so you do have cats? I can't wait!
Yes, yes it is!
Yes they were taken down 1cc to 63.7cc. Plenty of P to V to go more but this cam works best when the DCR is around 8.9-9.0 and with 63.7cc chambers we get 8.89:1 DCR. Perfect for pump gas.
No it does not. If anything it is stronger.
I think with a Fast intake and this cam you could make 460-470rwhp. As Rise of The Phoneix said, it's already been done.

It's hard to compare FEARLS(guy rise of phoneix is talking about) dyno numbers to ours as we have a pretty realistic dyno jet and he was on a mustang dyno and he was on a Dyno Jet at one point and time as well that is stingier than our Dyno Jet. The Dyno Jet he was on a guy made 320rwhp with normal bolt ons(full exhaust, LS6 intake, lid etc.) and then dyno'd 400rwhp with a V.2 Polluter cam after making 320rwhp with full bolt ons. For example our dyno would of probably gave the guy that made 400rwhp with the V.2 Polluter cam around 415-420rwhp.

Also remember, this GTO has a stock intake that IMO is one of the worst stock intakes out there for flow, has high flow cats still, 1x3/4" headers and no under drive pulley. There are at least 12-15rwhp/5-7rwtq to be gained from remedying those items. This is also not that big of a cam either compared to others out there that may be making a higher HP number, but I bet they aren't coming close to the down low torque.

Comparing dyno numbers from different dyno's is pretty much worthless IMO because of what I've just listed. All cars have certain bolt ons that the next car may not have and every dyno will read differently.
He made 439/409 on a dyno dynamics, then made 443/427 on one Mustang dyno with a fat AFR, then made 464rwhp on the Dyno Jet I mentioned above that put out 400rwhp with a cam only V.2 Polluter.
Thank you. Ai does some fantastic stuff.

Now here is a great comparison even though the engine sizes are different.

Run #10 is the same GTO we just dyno'd with Ai heads, SNS Stage 2, Stock LS2 intake etc. etc. Run #6 is a 5.7 LS1 with a LS6 intake, Stock 241 heads, Stock SLP Lid, stock MAF, stock TB, 1x7/8" TSP headers, 3" TSP true duals and the V.2 Polluter cam. Look at the difference in torque....

Jimbo1367

MARTIN,
How would you say the idle is , in the GTO? Light / mild ?

thanks,
Jim

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Jim,

I would say mild to moderate with cats still in place. Here are two different GTO's both with high flow cats and magnaflow exhaust with the Stage 2 TorqueMAX cam:



Now here are some F-bodies that have ORY's installed and even one with a cut-out:

Borla Exhaust:

Cut-out:

weldermike27408

Since he's stock cubes I bet a matchported FAST 92 Intake and an OTRCAI would help some. 90mm tb is fine.
As far as 243 heads vs. aftermarket,if my cam had 10* more duration like most high hp LS cars i think id be pretty close to AFR's in HP and TQ. The 560+ rwhp cars ive seen are running in 250*/259* duration range,turning 7000-7200 rpm and making about +6 more RWTQ than I am now with 243's,not to mention the GTO's IRS parasites.

weldermike27408

That is some damn good TQ from a stock cube head/cam car...

Jimbo1367

Martin
Thanks for posting the videos. I normally like quiet/stealth cams, but that GTO sounds badass !

Jim

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I dunno Mike, I've seen some TFS and AFR headed 408's not make what you're making with ported 243's.
Jim,

We've got some of those too!

Sales@Tick

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Little nitrous action with a 150 shot...