BigE_LS1

I cant remember the exact numbers on my car as it was with my old motor and 5 years ago but i can get petty close to it . 2002 trans am a4 with a circle d 3400 stall the factory 323 rearend afr heads milled to 59cc f13 cam on a 114 lsa mti lid stock tb and stock ls6 intake kooks 1 7/8 headers through kooks y pipes with the high flow cats going to a borla adj. exhaust with the wide open plate . it made 433hp and 412 lbs. Car ran great and for me it was the best cam that motor ever had in it " it had 3 others ". Car was tuned by Mike at gforce . It did have some surge in it from 35 mph to 40 mph but it was very little. my car was full weight in the 1/8 ran a best of 7.3? at 94 to 95 but it would run 7.4? at 94 to 95 all day long. Now that was with 100% stock sup under the car running on nittos 555r . It just made great power under the curve. yes afr heads made the cam shine more but you can get close to these numbers with other after market heads or even a good set of worked ls6 heads. Eveything works together match your heads with your cam and you will get the power you seek. Keep at it man that cam has more in her yet trust me .

BigE_LS1

Looking at you slip the car seems to run real hard and is making more power then the dyno is saying lol. Thats why most will tell you screw the numbers whats it run at the track. Good to see the f13 still doing work :}

lemons12

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I like a 4000 for all motor cars.. A 3600 can get the job done but is leaving a tad on the table. Call lane @ptc and tell him your goals and setup and see what he recommends. You can probably sell your yank used for the same or more than you will have in the new ptc.. 475$ shipped. You wont mind a 4000 as much when you go to a lower gear.

Kingc8r

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If I buy another converter it'll be a billet front because I'm already bored with the power it has and ill most likely put nitrous on it by next year. After the other mods previously talked about of course.

I will give him a call. I also need to call futral too. I think the average mph people pickup from the 1/8 to the 1/4 mile is around 24mph so I'm a little off there.

Once again thank you everyone for the advice. I can't wait to get this car running stronger.

lemons12

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Are you planning on locking the converter under WOT?

The converter Lane just built me is not a billet cover. I'm making 450+Rw on motor and built it with the intent of hitting it with a 200.

Kingc8r

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No probably not. I'm surprised he didn't want you to go billet with the 200 shot

Kingc8r

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Then when researching I read posts like this

https://ls1tech.com/forums/17256512-post4.html

Which says you might want a billet to stand up to DD use. I drive my car quite a bit

lemons12

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There are 1000+Rwhp with non billet covers. The actual power (within reason) has little to do with it.

Anti ballooning plates are a must (which PTC has)... As stated, the billet cover helps with the lock up clutch. As long as your aren't locking it under WOT, you will be fine.

PTC doesn't have lock up issues like some converters, TCI for example.

Kingc8r

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Ok. Ill give Lane a call, I honestly haven't been super impressed with my SS3600

Beave

I would just send it in to yank and make it a 4000 stall. Several cars in my area switched from 3200 and 3600 converters to the ss4000 and are pulling low 1.5 and even 1.49 60ft in full weight stock suspension cars. Ive been happy with my little Vig 3200 pulling 1.6's but seeing the guys consistently pulling a tenth better 60 and running 11.2's and 11.3's @118 it def shows the SS4000's work very well. They are also doing that on 17'' drag radials that they daily drive with.

lemons12

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There are a few Yank cars that really stand out to me... But on average, they are average. They set the bar for above average or below average.
PTC on average is above.
I was 3500+# with my PTC 4000.... I was making a whopping 36XRwhp and running in 2200+DA.. 1.50-1.52 short times spinning a small amount.
Normal suspension- LCA/relo brackets/panhard/tq arm..

Nothing impressive about the mods by any means and ran much better than most other cars with similar setups/power.

Beave

thats damn good! I have also never heard anything bad about PTC, several of my buddies have used them with great results as well.

lemons12

iTrader: (71)

Yep.. I like Yank a lot... And you get EXACTLY what you pay for. I just want mine to perform better than what I paid for!

Unless I get the money to test a Neal Chance one day, I will stick with PTC.

Kingc8r

iTrader: (21)

How much do yanks go for that would need a cut and clean?

ScreaminRedZ

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I'm not sure why people are saying the car is performing better than the dyno numbers indicate it should. Maybe I'm missing something?

lemons12

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I would have this performed then sell it with the invoice/receipt.
You aren't.

I was making roughly 5 more Rwhp and barely spinning. At 3500# and 2200DA I was running bottom 7s@95 or so..

SinisterWS6

Lemons, Thunderstruck, your both right about the 3.73, but I didn't think he was going to swap to a 3.73. He just said he had one lol. Its not what I was was thinking about using.

And yes he is leaving some on the table with the stall.

Lemons what are you running in terms of size/stall speed on your PTC? I haven't been in your build thread for awhile and am feeling lazy

Kingc8r

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I think he said its a 3500 N/A 4500 on the juice.

lemons12

iTrader: (71)

Correct king.. 3500 on motor, 4500 or so on a 200.

JakeFusion

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Stall... FTI 3800. Good on the juice, drives well, is a baller at the track.

Heads. No to aftermarket castings. Waste of money. Go AI or TEA. You'll be faster with a cheaper setup.