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Old 06-19-2013, 07:50 PM
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Default LS1/AFR 205'S/228R results

Tell me what you guys think of the numbers it put down. Should I be happy with the results?

Stock bottom end
AFR 205's milled to 60-61cc
228r on 114lsa
Fast 90 intake/Fast 92 T/B
25% underdrive pulley
SLP lid
stock 4l60e with Circle D 3600 Stall
TSP 1 7/8 headers

I dont know why it says MPH instead of RPM at the bottom of the graph
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You are doing this on a stock transmission? You think it will last like that?


Nice numbers by the way for a baby cam.
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I have a 4l80 in the works, the stock 4l60 isnt going to last.
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Strong numbers. Any track times?
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No track times yet, I don't trust the transmission. It already is having problems shifting at WOT.
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Not bad. Your setup is similar to mine.
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With the stall... 420/380 sounds about right. The torque looks a little low with a 228 and 205 tho. I would have thought you could maybe hit 430/400 or so with that setup.
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a 4l60 will handle the power you are making with less paracitic hp drain then a 4l80.if you trans has 100k ,then it mite need a rebuild.change your fluid and filter ,and add a 1/2 qt more tranny fluid for better WOT shifting..a Tony Mamo cam would have made more power.the 228r cam was designed for stock GM heads.Tony M designed a cam just for the head port flow of AFR heads.
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I'm thinking I might give tony a call, I really don't like these xer lobes (kinda noisey). The trans only has 50000 on it. I already overfilled it a bit. I think it might be in the tune because it is intermittent.
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Originally Posted by 00transamws6
Not bad. Your setup is similar to mine.
Thats a well planed out build you got there. Any track times on your set up.
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Tony actually made me that same package lol but still in the boxes waiting for me to put it together but i have a new short block from lingenfelter. kinda nice to see the power you got from it, also my heads were build by tony and i have the fast 102 nick william 102 tb
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tuning of the trans is so over looked.I feel afr heads , with the right correct cam and intake should make close to 450 rwhp.,with a good tune and air. what injectors and fuel pump are you using ?
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Stock fuel pump and Racetronix 37# injectors. 450 would be awesome, you think I could gain that much from switching the cam?

t5munoz- Did you go with Tony's cam or 228r? If you went with Tony's what are the specs of it?
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That is where mine is with some ported 241's...
Love the AFR's.... but for the ney sayers....



Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
With the stall... 420/380 sounds about right. The torque looks a little low with a 228 and 205 tho. I would have thought you could maybe hit 430/400 or so with that setup.
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^Sorry to sound like a broken record lol, but, can you share your track times?
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Its customary (and allows comparison) to use SAE numbers, not the uncorrected STD.

228R on a 114 is pretty much the XER lobed version of what Tony recommends, he prefers the LSLs. I dont think you would make much/any more with his cam. You may be a little low on torque, perhaps due to the headers. Like Jake id expect a little more torque. ..do you have gears?
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Stock gears, I actually just put a order in to tony for a little bit of a bigger cam. Hopefully this cam can break the 400 torque mark. Went with a 227/231 on a 113lsa. This cam also has a bit more lift than the 228r. I plan on going bigger maf and lid when I get it tuned again. You guys think a zo6 maf would suffice? Or should I go bigger?
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The Z06 Maf, 98mm lid, WS6 lower gave me a huge gain over the stock stuff... Again, you cannot argue w the results.



411/392 to 434/401


Originally Posted by sittinlovely
Stock gears, I actually just put a order in to tony for a little bit of a bigger cam. Hopefully this cam can break the 400 torque mark. Went with a 227/231 on a 113lsa. This cam also has a bit more lift than the 228r. I plan on going bigger maf and lid when I get it tuned again. You guys think a zo6 maf would suffice? Or should I go bigger?
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
With the stall... 420/380 sounds about right. The torque looks a little low with a 228 and 205 tho. I would have thought you could maybe hit 430/400 or so with that setup.
As Jake has stated above, the torque does seem a little low with the heads being milled to 61cc chambers. That said, this is a GREAT daily driver setup. Remember, your cam has 0 overlap, the 228R on a 114 LSA equates to 0 overlap, so your power band is wide with a little less peak. The AFR's would really shine with a slightly bigger cam that has some overlap. Overlap= power especially with good heads, which you have. It'd be nice to see the AFR's on the pulls, I'd imagine they're pretty conservative. I think there is a little power even w/ this setup.
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Nice solid numbers.


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