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Old 09-10-2016, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
After going with the larger headers on my setup, I could definitely feel the car being a lot more responsive, particularly from off throttle to 6,000. My back to back dyno graph showed I picked up 30+ rwtq in certain parts of the curve, yet I lost some HP past 6,000 rpm's. If you're feeling the car being more responsive, Darth is right, you picked up torque.
Your car picked up some awesome tq with the header swap.
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Wonder if a ported 102 or an MSD would help some
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I'm wondering if the intake harmonics of the 92 are just wrong for a higher revving 383. I also know a guy who picked up around 6 hp by switching to a 102 tb. You're on the edge of the 92 tb and truck maf being a small restriction.

Perfect world I would try a ported MSD with a full 100 mm intake setup.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
I'm wondering if the intake harmonics of the 92 are just wrong for a higher revving 383. I also know a guy who picked up around 6 hp by switching to a 102 tb. You're on the edge of the 92 tb and truck maf being a small restriction.

Perfect world I would try a ported MSD with a full 100 mm intake setup.
The 92 is probably doing an ok job. A 102, or msd, with bigger induction, would surely pick up a few ponies.

I thought of jumping to the msd for a little. One thing on my mind was the spohn solid motor mounts & how they lifted the motor a bit. The top of my 92 is barely, just over, 1.5 inches from the cowl.

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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
The 92 is probably doing an ok job. A 102, or msd, with bigger induction would surely pick up a few ponies.

I thought of jumping to the msd for a little. One thing on my mind was the spohn solid motor mounts & how they lifted the motor a bit. The top of my 92 is barely, just over, an inch from the cowl.
I bought an MSD but hio has it right now. I could ask him what he thinks about the clearance difference
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I bought an MSD but hio has it right now. I could ask him what he thinks about the clearance difference
Nice! You got the MSD. Are you going to have it ported? It would be good to know the actual difference, in height, between the two.
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Nice! You got the MSD. Are you going to have it ported? It would be good to know the actual difference, in height, between the two.
Hio was going to port it. I wanted to try it on my ls1 but now I'm changing to ls3 stuff.
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
The 92 is probably doing an ok job. A 102, or msd, with bigger induction would surely pick up a few ponies. I thought of jumping to the msd for a little. One thing on my mind was the spohn solid motor mounts & how they lifted the motor a bit. The top of my 92 is barely, just over, an inch from the cowl.
Being fair, it looks pretty strong. My gut tells me it would peak at 6900 and fall off rather quickly.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Hio was going to port it. I wanted to try it on my ls1 but now I'm changing to ls3 stuff.
Cool. The cathedral MSD..what kind of heads do you plan on running?

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Being fair, it looks pretty strong. My gut tells me it would peak at 6900 and fall off rather quickly.
Man, if this thing still didn't peak until 6900. That would be crazy. I think the rev limiter is going to 7100. Then just rev it to say 6900-7k. No more lol.
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I don't know the details of your build that well, but if you can stomach more mods, look into a lighter clutch. It'll make the motor really snappy and you'll get into the RPM band really quick. Won't see it on a dyno per se but you'll definitely feel it in the seat.
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
I don't know the details of your build that well, but if you can stomach more mods, look into a lighter clutch. It'll make the motor really snappy and you'll get into the RPM band really quick. Won't see it on a dyno per se but you'll definitely feel it in the seat.
Mod list on first page. I think i'm done..for now lol.
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This is cool. The difference between three graphs. You can clearly see the shape of the curve change through the mods.

-Baseline graph, through ORY catback exhaust.
-After install of true duals & vacuum pump
-After manifold porting
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A turn one steering pump will give a few.... And some other nick nacks
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
This is cool. The difference between three graphs. You can clearly see the shape of the curve change through the mods. -Baseline graph, through ORY catback exhaust. -After install of true duals & vacuum pump -After manifold porting
yeah. As you progress your torque curve flattens and broadens. Really nice work
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The MSD doesn't have much clearance. I can fit a 10an hose between the lowest part of the cowl and the MSD intake but that's it. You could probably use a hammer and make a little more room lol. But it's close in the low part of the cowl closer to the passenger side.
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
yeah. As you progress your torque curve flattens and broadens. Really nice work
Thanks for the compliment Darth.

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The MSD doesn't have much clearance. I can fit a 10an hose between the lowest part of the cowl and the MSD intake but that's it. You could probably use a hammer and make a little more room lol. But it's close in the low part of the cowl closer to the passenger side.
Appreciate the pic. As your race car is a bad *** machine. Make sure to keep us posted on your street car.
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Thanks for the compliment Darth.Appreciate the pic. As your race car is a bad *** machine. Make sure to keep us posted on your street car.
Will do buddy. Street car is going to be fun for sure.
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Got to the track on Friday night. Had a great time & learned some valuable info. Revving the car to 7k, in 1st & 2nd, actually hurt performance. The car seemed to do good, with the extra revs, in 3rd. The first run, with the higher shifts, I actually shifted to 4th through the trap. So I just spun 3rd out on the next three runs.

The best thing I saw was two 30mph back halfs. 88-118. See what happens next time.

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I saw the same thing on my stroker, shift earlier and let the torque do the work. 1/8 mile mph isn't great but knowing the car isn't setup for drag and picking up 30mph on the back half proves it makes the power. Good stuff!
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
I saw the same thing on my stroker, shift earlier and let the torque do the work. 1/8 mile mph isn't great but knowing the car isn't setup for drag and picking up 30mph on the back half proves it makes the power. Good stuff!
Thanks spider. I'm going to try some different ideas/rpms next time out.

Are you going to get to PBIR with your camaro?
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