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Old 12-12-2016, 03:30 AM
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So finally finished my long time project
2002 ss fully forged internals
Tick sns 3 (235/243 111lsa) , stock 243s, ls6 intake, 42lbs injectors, aeromotive 340lph with Hotwire kit, btr 660 springs, trunion upgrade, ls7 lifters, 1 7/8 long tubes off road y. All through a monster stage 3 and a mwc nine with 3.90s.
Was really hoping to at least break 400rwhp almost wanted to set the car in fire when it came back at 379
What could be holding me back in this case ?
Or is the rear end robbing me of so much power ?
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I am running the Tick sns 3 mild lobes in my 98 m6. My only mods are ported throttle body, stock 1998 heads, long tubes, SLP lid, ory pipe, flowmasters and a ls6 intake. I put down 390hp and 380tq on stock 3.43 gears. I am running stock injectors and stock clutch also. I only got 60,000 miles on my car.


A lot of it can come down to tuning, I'm no expert but that is what my numbers were after my cam install.

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Originally Posted by Gooze_1
So finally finished my long time project
2002 ss fully forged internals
Tick sns 3 (235/243 111lsa) , stock 243s, ls6 intake, 42lbs injectors, aeromotive 340lph with Hotwire kit, btr 660 springs, trunion upgrade, ls7 lifters, 1 7/8 long tubes off road y. All through a monster stage 3 and a mwc nine with 3.90s.
Was really hoping to at least break 400rwhp almost wanted to set the car in fire when it came back at 379
What could be holding me back in this case ?
Or is the rear end robbing me of so much power ?
That combo should be good for 430ish. What kind of catback is on the car? Tires? Lid and maf? Ud pulley?

Have you had it to the track? What does it run?
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Does the car feel strong? The torque ramps up nice & the power carries very well.

As stated I wonder about the induction/exhaust.
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Originally Posted by VincesSS
That combo should be good for 430ish. What kind of catback is on the car? Tires? Lid and maf? Ud pulley?

Have you had it to the track? What does it run?
The catback on it right now is a spin tech, tired in it are m&h drag radials, lid is a slo kid stock mag and stick tb, no ud pulley

Not yet I'm planning on going once i get some time off work
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Does the car feel strong? The torque ramps up nice & the power carries very well.

As stated I wonder about the induction/exhaust.
The car does feel strong and it pulls nicely up top
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Originally Posted by Gooze_1
The catback on it right now is a spin tech, tired in it are m&h drag radials, lid is a slo kid stock mag and stick tb, no ud pulley

Not yet I'm planning on going once i get some time off work
Sounds like a few limiting factors. With a cutout, speed density tune and ud pulley you would be over 400 imo.
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Could be the dyno...I would have guessed 420-430 through a M6
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even with all that stock stuff on there and with that 9" it should clear 400 rwhp on a properly functioning/calibrated dynojet. if it does indeed have 243's,with that cam i would expect it to clear 400rw also. you have room to grow for sure. as already mentioned, with a bigger maf/lid or going speed density,good flowing exhaust or a cutout, ud pulley, and if funds allow,finding a 90/90 setup should put that combo around 440-450 rwhp.
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Originally Posted by slow trap
even with all that stock stuff on there and with that 9" it should clear 400 rwhp on a properly functioning/calibrated dynojet. if it does indeed have 243's,with that cam i would expect it to clear 400rw also. you have room to grow for sure. as already mentioned, with a bigger maf/lid or going speed density,good flowing exhaust or a cutout, ud pulley, and if funds allow,finding a 90/90 setup should put that combo around 440-450 rwhp.
Yea I know there's plenty of room to grow it's just upsetting lol same dyno my zr1 did 600 with just longtubes and exhaust no other mods
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yeah,something seems to be wrong. just an example, my junk when it was stock other than some cheap *** 1 3/4 headers, hooker catback and a 228 cam made 383 rw with a stock rear. that cam of yours is quite a bit bigger and those 243's should more than make up for the power loss of that rear.
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if it was an auto I would tell you not to worry but that seems low for your mods, I would def expect 420ish rwhp

the curves look good though, could be a dyno issue with the weather station or other calibrations?

what air fuel ratio and timing are you at? should be ~12.7:1 and 26* (plus or minus a couple degrees)
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
if it was an auto I would tell you not to worry but that seems low for your mods, I would def expect 420ish rwhp

the curves look good though, could be a dyno issue with the weather station or other calibrations?

what air fuel ratio and timing are you at? should be ~12.7:1 and 26* (plus or minus a couple degrees)
I wouldn't be able to tell you in all honesty. The tuner is one of the better ones here in the Bay Area but going to a different tuner wouldn't be bad idea or just go to a different dyno
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Could always wait until you get some track times later on. Might just be the dyno.

I've seen a dynojet in person that read 30rwhp+ low repeatably with several cars who had dyno sheets from other dynojets. **** happens. Left a lot of people at the dyno day broken hearted.
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Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
Could always wait until you get some track times later on. Might just be the dyno.

I've seen a dynojet in person that read 30rwhp+ low repeatably with several cars who had dyno sheets from other dynojets. **** happens. Left a lot of people at the dyno day broken hearted.
Same dyno my zr1 dynoed 600 on just longtubes and knn cold air. The only other thing I can think of is the -3.2 dish pistons reducing compression but it shouldn't be that much imo
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Looking on a calc the -3.2 should lower the compression around .4 from the flat tops. How much have the heads been worked? What do you think the compression ratio is?
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Looking on a calc the -3.2 should lower the compression around .4 from the flat tops. How much have the heads been worked? What do you think the compression ratio is?
They're untouched just resurfaced. I was told 10:5:1
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Originally Posted by Gooze_1
They're untouched just resurfaced. I was told 10:5:1
10.5:1 is a stock ls6. Using the -3.2cc pistons & only taking away around 1cc from the chambers (guessing) you probably lost a lil compression.



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