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Old 05-26-2017, 05:30 PM
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Do you have a build thread OP? Or a mod list?
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Originally Posted by Jtm2085
Do you have a build thread OP? Or a mod list?
I have one on Corvette Forum. Well sort of.
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LS6 Heads are awesome
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Callaway Honker
100 mm MAF
Nw102
Home ported fast 102
1 7/8 pfadt Tri y headers with catted x pipe
Stock TI exhaust
EWP
Turn one power steering pump
Granatelli wires
Spec mini twin clutch
ATI 10% balancer
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Good work Scotty! Good luck at track next time.
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I bet that tri Y is really helping it carry
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Could be. That or the x. Mine has always been on a poopy y pipe.
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so from honker, intake, tb, maf, balancer, headers and tune you got 100 hp, right? what timing do you run now?
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Just to point out something, I've seen a couple of Z06s run bone stock with DRs 118-119 in the quarter. So it's not that much of a freak. I would expect it to trap around 128 now if that power is real (and it isn't).

DynoDynamics are goofy *** dynos. They are good for tuning, but their numbers can be super inflated - they are not heartbreakers. Hinson had a 416 with TFS 235 heads and a 244 cam with 11.5:1 made 597/565 on theirs. On a dynojet, it was like 550/490. Good numbers, but not the LS7 crushing numbers they tried to sell.

Otherwise, throw a set of TFS 215 heads on there and a G5X3. 50rwhp + 70rwhp pretty standard for those mods on an LS6. Would put you at 560rwhp. Which it probably would do on a DD dyno.

And then it'd show 510 on a dynojet. Which is okay. It'll still trap 130-131.

Or hell, do like Jacob and do LLSR and MMS220s. He hit 520. You might hit 600 on that dyno.
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That car will do 125+ now no doubts. Some gear and a good launch/run no doubt in the 130 range. That's what i run with a bolt on ls6. I see no reason he can't. Imo he sjould do better really. Just a better car than a fcar.

The realness will show up.
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
That car will do 125+ now no doubts. Some gear and a good launch/run no doubt in the 130 range. That's what i run with a bolt on ls6. I see no reason he can't. Imo he sjould do better really. Just a better car than a fcar.

The realness will show up.
Didn't you trap that like once? Same time you cut a 1.2 60ft? Was it in negative 8000 DA?

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Originally Posted by blk00ss
Didn't you trap that like once? Same time you cut a 1.2 60ft? Was it in negative 8000 DA?

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he and everybody else agreed/admitted the 1.2 was a timing error.
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How is this a happy dyno when the car made 380whp with bolt ons on the same dyno?
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Originally Posted by redbird555
How is this a happy dyno when the car made 380whp with bolt ons on the same dyno?
This ^^^

Didn't he back up his previous dyno numbers, from this same dyno, with track times? I'm anxious to see how his next track outing goes. Then we'll have the data we need to once again see that the dyno is accurate.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Just to point out something, I've seen a couple of Z06s run bone stock with DRs 118-119 in the quarter. So it's not that much of a freak. I would expect it to trap around 128 now if that power is real (and it isn't).

DynoDynamics are goofy *** dynos. They are good for tuning, but their numbers can be super inflated - they are not heartbreakers. Hinson had a 416 with TFS 235 heads and a 244 cam with 11.5:1 made 597/565 on theirs. On a dynojet, it was like 550/490. Good numbers, but not the LS7 crushing numbers they tried to sell.

Otherwise, throw a set of TFS 215 heads on there and a G5X3. 50rwhp + 70rwhp pretty standard for those mods on an LS6. Would put you at 560rwhp. Which it probably would do on a DD dyno.

And then it'd show 510 on a dynojet. Which is okay. It'll still trap 130-131.

Or hell, do like Jacob and do LLSR and MMS220s. He hit 520. You might hit 600 on that dyno.
Dyno dynamics can be manipulated more from what I understand. And maybe that's what Hinson did??? Shops will do a lot of things to sell parts and be better than the next shop. Test heads on different bore sizes than the application is actually made for, is another common one to manipulate flow numbers so why not manipulate a dyno. If I remember correctly Darth took his car to a dyno jet and a dyno dynamics and made within a few hp of each other so it seems to me if we look at that data then a DD is fairly accurate, but if we look at Hinsons DD they're not hmmm. I'm guessing this depends on the shop and the operator. Seeing that the car made 379 before I didn't think this was a happy dyno until reading your post. Again we need more track times to back this dyno up, of course, but he did that with his last dyno numbers and track times. Shouldn't be hard for him to back up the numbers with that power and the efficient corvette chassis so we will just have to wait and see.

As far as heads/cam gains, it's hard to say exactly what a combo will make until it's done on each car. Some cars are more efficient and have a better combo before adding heads/cam so they will net less hp. And some guys do mods and make less power if the combo isn't appropriate for their car. We see it all the time on this forum. That's what this forum is for. Seeing other people's mistakes and accomplishments and learning from them. I just read a Mamo thread where a guy picked up 120whp with a package so should everyone expect 120whp with a package from Mamo no matter what their starting point is? When Darth had his hydraulic setup, there were guys that tried to build the same and made much less power. I paid close attention to this before starting my street build and purchasing from Mamo. One thing I did was bug the **** out of Darth when he first got his back together and found out it was a little more than just doing a H/C swap and then swap to LLSR.
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Originally Posted by blk00ss
Didn't you trap that like once? Same time you cut a 1.2 60ft? Was it in negative 8000 DA?

Asking for a friend.
IIRC he's trapped 129-131 during multiple track outings.
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I'm pretty sure with a couple more choice mods Scotty can hit 460+ RWHP with just bolt ons. If we have to, overnight parts from Japan
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Originally Posted by Dian
so from honker, intake, tb, maf, balancer, headers and tune you got 100 hp, right? what timing do you run now?
I think we ended up at 21. This was on 91 octane. It was at 26 on the first pull and the top end looked like it was floating a valve.The MAF curve was off too and that was throwing the AFR off. Surprised it went 119 with that going on. I could have totally broke something at the track. Dumb mistake on my part.
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The torque is what is curious to me considering most cammed cars and some heads cam cars dont get to 400ftlbs unless they have a stalled auto. 380rw stock is 119, 440rw Boltons should be 125ish given the 60rwhp improvement. So heads cam should be 525rw and 135?
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
The torque is what is curious to me considering most cammed cars and some heads cam cars dont get to 400ftlbs unless they have a stalled auto. 380rw stock is 119, 440rw Boltons should be 125ish given the 60rwhp improvement. So heads cam should be 525rw and 135?
Glad you mentioned the TQ. I caught a lot of **** from a few people for getting the Tri y headers. I remember them saying " They would be awesome on a truck " but I went with them anyway. I saw Dr Whigham put them on his C5 and it made awesome numbers with just a tune. Made more TQ than HP I think. So I figured the ported fast 102 might be down on TQ so going with the Tri y would complement it. Hope I'm making sense lol.
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