H/C/I Dyno Results! Any opinions?
#23
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
Maybe some sort of comparo would show if that were true...soon possibly...
I did mean of the same potential, not just any $300 elgin cam out there like the craze is right now. Its like paying $500 (was $550) for a katech cam. Literally $115 more for a name....
I did mean of the same potential, not just any $300 elgin cam out there like the craze is right now. Its like paying $500 (was $550) for a katech cam. Literally $115 more for a name....
#25
TECH Veteran
iTrader: (1)
Some people don't care about that. Especially when you can get a cam elsewhere cheaper that makes just as much power. If he'd price his stuff accordingly I feel he'd sell more. I was gonna buy a cam kit from him but I was shocked at the price. I bought my cam from another vendor because of price mainly and I feel I ended up with basically the same thing although Geoff wanted me to go smaller than I ended up going.
#27
Teching In
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Brunswick, OH
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I've already pulled the trigger on a torque converter for the setup. Going with a 3200 Stall. The deceleration stalling has been tuned out and it runs really well right now, very good throttle response now also. But it is pretty clear that the torque converter is needed. The shop that did the tune has a great deal on the torque converter so I jumped on it. So, we will see soon as to what this does for the combination.
As for the cam conversation that has been going on in here. I chose EPS based upon other builders opinions and other builders results with the same cam as mine. I liked that they have a special lobe design, and that lobe design is as quiet as it is advertised. i only assume it is as easy on the valvetrain as it is supposed to be. I also wanted something else rather than the typical 224/224 or 228/228. Those are proven cams but even though the EPS was more expensive, really only about $50 more than the others, can't complain about the price. We all spend a crazy amount of money on our cars, if an extra 50 bucks is a big deal then I think I better rethink what I'm spending on. I'd recommend EPS to anyone looking for a cam. Geoff was helpful in the decision and helpful with any other question that I had. Someone mentioned that he is proud of his cam grinds, well.... he should be!
As for the cam conversation that has been going on in here. I chose EPS based upon other builders opinions and other builders results with the same cam as mine. I liked that they have a special lobe design, and that lobe design is as quiet as it is advertised. i only assume it is as easy on the valvetrain as it is supposed to be. I also wanted something else rather than the typical 224/224 or 228/228. Those are proven cams but even though the EPS was more expensive, really only about $50 more than the others, can't complain about the price. We all spend a crazy amount of money on our cars, if an extra 50 bucks is a big deal then I think I better rethink what I'm spending on. I'd recommend EPS to anyone looking for a cam. Geoff was helpful in the decision and helpful with any other question that I had. Someone mentioned that he is proud of his cam grinds, well.... he should be!
#28
LS1Tech Premium Sponsor
iTrader: (2)
Im not here to just push parts. I am here to be a sponsor and help the community.
You can pay extra for parts and justify it any way you want, but when you dont have to for the same quality, it seems backwards.
#30
Staging Lane
iTrader: (2)
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Your going to love that stall and then your immediately going to wish you had put a bigger one in. Try to do a gear at the same time if it's in your budget. Most guys charge 200-250 to set it up and you'll have 175-225 in the gear itself. So roughly another 450 total.
#31
Teching In
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Brunswick, OH
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
yeah, i've got a gear set already. I'll be putting that in myself before i get the converter in. The converter i may pay the shop to do. Not sure yet. Seems worth it for the hassel of pulling the trans. It'll be a fun ride, it already is!
#32
Teching In
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Brunswick, OH
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Quick update if anyone is still following. I finally was able to go to the track last night. Was only able to get a couple runs in as it was quite crowded.
So the best time I got was 12.8@111. I'm satisfied with the result, got into the 12's that's all I was trying to do last night, was thinking I'd hit 12.6 but 12.8 was the last run I got in. I was searching for traction the two runs before that, first run I broke loose at about the 1/8th mile mark. Second I broke loose at the line.
60ft time on the 12.8 run was only a 2.09. I know I need to launch the car A LOT better, that will ultimately get me into where i probably should be.
Again, the car made 400WHP and has a 3.42 gear and 3200 stall converter. Street tires 275/40/17. Only suspension upgrades are tubular lower control arms, double adjustable panhard bar and a panhard relocation bracket. Stock suspension otherwise. full interior full weight car as well.
Let me know what you all think.
So the best time I got was 12.8@111. I'm satisfied with the result, got into the 12's that's all I was trying to do last night, was thinking I'd hit 12.6 but 12.8 was the last run I got in. I was searching for traction the two runs before that, first run I broke loose at about the 1/8th mile mark. Second I broke loose at the line.
60ft time on the 12.8 run was only a 2.09. I know I need to launch the car A LOT better, that will ultimately get me into where i probably should be.
Again, the car made 400WHP and has a 3.42 gear and 3200 stall converter. Street tires 275/40/17. Only suspension upgrades are tubular lower control arms, double adjustable panhard bar and a panhard relocation bracket. Stock suspension otherwise. full interior full weight car as well.
Let me know what you all think.
#35
Teching In
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Brunswick, OH
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#36
Teching In
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Brunswick, OH
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#38
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (26)
Quick update if anyone is still following. I finally was able to go to the track last night. Was only able to get a couple runs in as it was quite crowded.
So the best time I got was 12.8@111. I'm satisfied with the result, got into the 12's that's all I was trying to do last night, was thinking I'd hit 12.6 but 12.8 was the last run I got in. I was searching for traction the two runs before that, first run I broke loose at about the 1/8th mile mark. Second I broke loose at the line.
60ft time on the 12.8 run was only a 2.09. I know I need to launch the car A LOT better, that will ultimately get me into where i probably should be.
Again, the car made 400WHP and has a 3.42 gear and 3200 stall converter. Street tires 275/40/17. Only suspension upgrades are tubular lower control arms, double adjustable panhard bar and a panhard relocation bracket. Stock suspension otherwise. full interior full weight car as well.
Let me know what you all think.
So the best time I got was 12.8@111. I'm satisfied with the result, got into the 12's that's all I was trying to do last night, was thinking I'd hit 12.6 but 12.8 was the last run I got in. I was searching for traction the two runs before that, first run I broke loose at about the 1/8th mile mark. Second I broke loose at the line.
60ft time on the 12.8 run was only a 2.09. I know I need to launch the car A LOT better, that will ultimately get me into where i probably should be.
Again, the car made 400WHP and has a 3.42 gear and 3200 stall converter. Street tires 275/40/17. Only suspension upgrades are tubular lower control arms, double adjustable panhard bar and a panhard relocation bracket. Stock suspension otherwise. full interior full weight car as well.
Let me know what you all think.
Your 60ft is pretty bad for a stall car...street tires are not helping at all. Throw a DR on it and get the 60ft down in the 1.7 range and you will be bottom 12's.
#39
Teching In
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Brunswick, OH
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think the tune is good, there aren't too many around here and none really better than Big3Racing.
I know on that 12.8 run I didn't have it floored off the line and didn't get it to the floor til closer to the 1/8th mark.
I think it still has more to do with my right foot than the car. Once I drive the car better I'll get it there.
#40
Teching In
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Brunswick, OH
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not bad for first outing, but That is a low trap speed unless the DA was really high. A honest 400whp car should be trapping 118 at full weight in decent air.
Your 60ft is pretty bad for a stall car...street tires are not helping at all. Throw a DR on it and get the 60ft down in the 1.7 range and you will be bottom 12's.
Your 60ft is pretty bad for a stall car...street tires are not helping at all. Throw a DR on it and get the 60ft down in the 1.7 range and you will be bottom 12's.
Yeah, my 60ft times were bad all night.
Last edited by jm112583; 09-03-2017 at 11:45 AM.