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Old 05-25-2018, 12:08 PM
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Ran my new motor last night on the dyno, numbers seemed way low...but maybe we were expecting to much? 6.0 iron block, 4" stroker crank and rods, weisco pistons (10.5:1 compression) , trick flow 225 heads, 236/244 .610 lift on 112 lobe, 102 fast and NW 102 thottle body, 1 3/4 headers in a 98 A4 vette, built 4l65e w/yank 3600, thru 3:73's. Any ideas ? Thanks in advance!
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What were the numbers exactly?
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Sorry....416/415
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Wow, that is low, converter locked or unlocked?

What rpm did they pull to?
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Originally Posted by Keith Wade
Ran my new motor last night on the dyno, numbers seemed way low...but maybe we were expecting to much? 6.0 iron block, 4" stroker crank and rods, weisco pistons (10.5:1 compression) , trick flow 225 heads, 236/244 .610 lift on 112 lobe, 102 fast and NW 102 thottle body, 1 3/4 headers in a 98 A4 vette, built 4l65e w/yank 3600, thru 3:73's. Any ideas ? Thanks in advance!


My .02
1. Heads are small, 235s at a minimum for cathedrals on a 408" (kinda like FAST 92 VS 102)
2. Headers are definitely small, should have 1 7/8"
3. Cam could be a little bigger with small heads (ideal for larger cat heads), a little more lift ~.630" ish depending on
rockers & springs.
4. Compression depending on fuel 93 VS 91, could be a tad higher 11.0-11.2:1

All that said the A4 & stall probably at least 20-30 less VS T56 , There is also a +- 10%
Variances between different Types of Dynos, let alone operators & tooners, LOL

AS others will say Dynos are only tools to measure changes, it most likely runs & drives real
well on the street, and should be a lot of fun. Just depends on application,goals & money.
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Unlocked...peaked at 6150...rev was set at 6500. When we started, it would only pull to 6200...mass air ran out. I pulled a thread off here and showed the tuner, he used the info and was able to pull to 6500. 6490 to be exact
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It' s a single disc converter, wishing I had went triple disc now
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Originally Posted by NAVYBLUE210
My .02
1. Heads are small, 235s at a minimum for cathedrals on a 408" (kinda like FAST 92 VS 102)
2. Headers are definitely small, should have 1 7/8"
3. Cam could be a little bigger with small heads (ideal for larger cat heads), a little more lift ~.630" ish depending on
rockers & springs.
4. Compression depending on fuel 93 VS 91, could be a tad higher 11.0-11.2:1

All that said the A4 & stall probably at least 20-30 less VS T56 , There is also a +- 10%
Variances between different Types of Dynos, let alone operators & tooners, LOL

AS others will say Dynos are only tools to measure changes, it most likely runs & drives real
well on the street, and should be a lot of fun. Just depends on application,goals & money.
It's not bad, but not what I expected honestly. I was expecting more. We did go economy alittle but I never thought it would cost me that much hp. Thanks for the input , greatly appreciated
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What type of dyno ?
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What sort of rear tires are on the car? Sometimes old hard rubber slips and skews the numbers lower than they should be. Read about that cost one person ~50 hp before.

Overall what the others said.

How does the car run and drive?
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Originally Posted by Tuskyz28
What type of dyno ?
Dynojet... it's new
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
What sort of rear tires are on the car? Sometimes old hard rubber slips and skews the numbers lower than they should be. Read about that cost one person ~50 hp before.

Overall what the others said.

How does the car run and drive?
They are older michlean pilots...not the best.
Car is ok, it runs good but no 500 hp good. Doesn't push you back or anything. No big stomp power.
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Heads aren't the best but they should produce better numbers than you have. A friend made 500whp through tfs215's on his 408. Something else going on here.
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Originally Posted by Jtm2085
Heads aren't the best but they should produce better numbers than you have. A friend made 500whp through tfs215's on his 408. Something else going on here.
Thats what I think ,but I m not sure what
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I do remember the builder used my short travel lifters, didn't seem to concerned. Said he thought they were comps. May not mean anything thou...i m just looking for answers
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DId he measure each pushrod individually given that they were short travel? If they are anything like my Johnsons, you don't have a lot preload to play with...
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
DId he measure each pushrod individually given that they were short travel? If they are anything like my Johnsons, you don't have a lot preload to play with...
They don't have much preload at all... two different length pushrods as well. That's all I'm sure of....
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What's your cats, X or Y pipe, etc look like?
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Originally Posted by Darth_V8r
What's your cats, X or Y pipe, etc look like?
No cats... true duals thru borla attack out the back



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