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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 07:22 PM
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I can agree with this. Past around 6500 rpm though. It's ok you can post your opinion. These heads are only 215cc but are great heads. The best heads? No of coarse not. We've seen tests against the MSD on cath heads. The fast manifolds make better tq/hp up to about 6500rpm. Also the highest I spin is about 7200 & that's only racing or dyno. With the shift drop about 2k rpm I'm just above 5k on an up shift. It would be cool to see the average hp numbers between my manifold & a msd between these rpm. Hams just think if I put some llsr big cam in it with a msd & spun it to 7500+. I bet it would make a nice amount more power with same heads. Ls3 heads would make more power up top but I'm just not a fan. Try to remember this is a skreet car.

No hams a 5.3 will not make this power in this rpm range. Now a 8-9k rpm screamer. Sure. The piston is a nice bit smaller. Hey I could be wrong. I also would like to see a 5.3 making similar power.
no it won’t make the same power in the same rpm range. Power band would move a lot to the right. A 500 rwhp 5.3 would have to spin a lot higher as it’ll make less tq. But hp could be similar

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Old Nov 8, 2018 | 07:51 PM
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Your tq is decent. Indicative of a decent overall package. But your TQ is also indicative of hp potential. It’s really not hard at all to make 100 rwhp more than your rwtq. Right now I’m at 130 more. Darth HCI ls1 was 100 more and he drove it everywhere. He made around 540/440. There’s potential for even more rwhp there either more rpm but not sure how the Stock bottom would like it

so you being at 460 rwtq well you can see where your hp potential lies with simple math. I think being in that 80-100 more rwhp range than tq is about max and to keep real drivability. Tbh you
could get near 600 rwhp but that’s not really within the realm
ofnthe purpose of your car
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 02:14 PM
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This one guy with a race car. He makes 600+ rwhp.
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
Your tq is decent. Indicative of a decent overall package. But your TQ is also indicative of hp potential. It’s really not hard at all to make 100 rwhp more than your rwtq. Right now I’m at 130 more. Darth HCI ls1 was 100 more and he drove it everywhere. He made around 540/440. There’s potential for even more rwhp there either more rpm but not sure how the Stock bottom would like it

so you being at 460 rwtq well you can see where your hp potential lies with simple math. I think being in that 80-100 more rwhp range than tq is about max and to keep real drivability. Tbh you
could get near 600 rwhp but that’s not really within the realm
ofnthe purpose of your car

How many miles have you put on your car since the 388?
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Old Nov 9, 2018 | 10:02 PM
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How many miles have you put on your car since the 388?
i have no clue. More than my firehawk
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Old Nov 10, 2018 | 09:04 AM
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So Florida SS, I think the numbers look good. Nice set up.

Originally Posted by big hammer
Your tq is decent. Indicative of a decent overall package. But your TQ is also indicative of hp potential. It’s really not hard at all to make 100 rwhp more than your rwtq. Right now I’m at 130 more. Darth HCI ls1 was 100 more and he drove it everywhere. He made around 540/440. There’s potential for even more rwhp there either more rpm but not sure how the Stock bottom would like it

so you being at 460 rwtq well you can see where your hp potential lies with simple math. I think being in that 80-100 more rwhp range than tq is about max and to keep real drivability. Tbh you
could get near 600 rwhp but that’s not really within the realm
ofnthe purpose of your car
Hammer, I think that's very well worded. When folks have a custom cam spec'd that's a great way to describe what they want out of the top end package with the goal of higher rpm hp.

Follow up question, say a ported 706 cathedral 5.3 cylinder head on a 5.7 flows enough air to too make 400 whp & 400 wtq with a 224 sized cam with the stock Ls6 intake. With a MSD or Fast 102 intake what sort of cam & lifter set do you think will get 500 whp & 400 wtq out of the engine?

Let's limit the rpm to 8,000 for the stock bottom end. LPE spun several stock bottoms to 8,000 rpm and they lived for a while. Let's assume the 5.3 heads can flow a max of 270 cfm of air with the MSD or 102 Fast intake.

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Old Nov 10, 2018 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
So Florida SS, I think the numbers look good. Nice set up.
Thanks! Appreciate it sir.
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Thanks! Appreciate it sir.
Even stock performance GM wont run those heavy valves. Stock ls3 sings to 6500 6600. and the lite valves can be pushed to 7600 easy with 500lb springs.
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 06:37 PM
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Even stock performance GM wont run those heavy valves. Stock ls3 sings to 6500 6600. and the lite valves can be pushed to 7600 easy with 500lb springs.
Maybe I should have just put a crate LS3 in this thing. Would've made more friends online lol.
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Maybe I should have just put a crate LS3 in this thing. Would've made more friends online lol.
Knowing this place probably not lol
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris25
Knowing this place probably not lol
Lol...
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Old Nov 16, 2018 | 12:24 PM
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I think it’s a nice overall package. I’m sure it has good drive ability and excellent power curve for any street car. Have you had any oil consumption issues with the 4” crank? I’m debating between a 3.9” or a 4” for my ls1 which is why I’m asking.
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Old Nov 18, 2018 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jhshnh
I think it’s a nice overall package. I’m sure it has good drive ability and excellent power curve for any street car. Have you had any oil consumption issues with the 4” crank? I’m debating between a 3.9” or a 4” for my ls1 which is why I’m asking.
Thanks. The dumped exhaust makes it a little rowdy but the motor is pretty tame. Sometimes it smokes a little on start up. Doesn't bother me much. With oil consumption I'd say I will add maybe a quart between 3k mile oil changes. Engine has just over 12k miles on it. Been the same since new.

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Old Nov 18, 2018 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Maybe I should have just put a crate LS3 in this thing. Would've made more friends online lol.
with the right combo around it there is no doubt it woulda been faster.
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Old Nov 18, 2018 | 08:06 PM
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Guess what duhg. Your car could be faster too...
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Oh mine was faster when i hurt it.
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Originally Posted by SoFla01SSLookinstok
Maybe I should have just put a crate LS3 in this thing. Would've made more friends online lol.
Only if the LS3 intake was replaced with a hogged out Fast LSXR 102 intake or MSD intake and ported 102 TB with short /mid runners and a big cam that's not from Comp Cams, tuned & installed by you with software you custom wrote.

Chassis dyno of NA 650 whp minimum to make on line

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Old Nov 20, 2018 | 07:46 PM
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These are neat. They’re basically mast castings but not cnc’d. I think would be great on a 383

http://www.performance-world.com/Cyl...s-p/63240a.htm
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Old Nov 21, 2018 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
These are neat. They’re basically mast castings but not cnc’d. I think would be great on a 383

http://www.performance-world.com/Cyl...s-p/63240a.htm
HMMMM those look interesting
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Old Nov 21, 2018 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by big hammer
These are neat. They’re basically mast castings but not cnc’d. I think would be great on a 383

http://www.performance-world.com/Cyl...s-p/63240a.htm
Thats not a bad price at all be interesting to see how they perform.
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