Classy predictable trolling as ever. Ad Hominem is so 2013, you could at least improve your game a little to keep things interesting

 

Sorry, someone has to talk from actual facts instead of the old school mentality, when they haven't even built a forced induction setup since????

There's a reason there is a wave of people who moved to forced induction. You can run less cam/NO cam and make more power. The torque curve is better. And in many instances, the price is cheaper than building a high dollar NA setup given that intakes are upwards of $1000 lately. I built a turbo setup over a decade ago that:

-Is still running today.
-Was my daily driver with air-conditioning.
-Ran 10's at over 130 mph at the track, driving there and back on low boost.
-93 octane only.
-Didn't overheat in southern summers.

And by today's standards this setup isn't even that impressive.

Procharger setups are a weekend bolt-on deal with more head room than heads/cam, and keep everything under the hood basically stock except for fans. And you can reuse your exhaust setup/heads.

Get out more.

 

130 mph turbo? Id eat that for breakfast til 2nd gear all day with my 120 mph na car. Small cam only sbe is WAYYYYY cheaper than even a no name ebay turbo kit, not to mention a ton less work. Boosted motors are not going to run nearly as long as NA motors all things being equal. Note my first comment on power regarding boost earlier too.

 

Configured right for what? Racing? Please read the postmans wish list and look at the quote I bolded for his goals and then tell me again what I said isnt "true" to this request?

This is a great thread that has some fun discussion going on and some of you guys are either not reading it correctly or fixated on racing. Most of us dudes are simply in this to have a good time and get the adrenaline pumping, its not all just peak performance we consider anymore.




As for the other posts above, What seems odd to me is why dig into my posts with contraries and side trackin? Why focus ANY of the content in this thread on me and not the tech? Why not simply join in the good times and offer up your own recipe for what you think the Postman should build? It would be fun to read and helpful to the OP and not wreck the good times

 

Your 120 mph NA car cuts better than 1.5 sixty foots? Sorry you either simply weren't able to build a proper boosted setup or never built one. Either way this argument is silly because me and plenty of others have already accomplished what you're saying isn't possible......its old news.

 

Because you're sharing outdated misinformation. Typical old school NA guy.

 

None of this warrants your attitude towards me. Why does everyone have to build a boosted LS? I have friends who still build BBC, SBF, and even mopars still do you want all their addresses so you can go over there and write them a note about how wrong they are? If your ideas on building LS engines are so perfect why on earth would you attack my comments instead of offering your own plan while disregarding my comments? Surely your plan would be strong enough to stand on its own merits without the ad hominem redirects towards me dont you think?

 

Not going to wade into some of the vitriol here, but some good points were brought up that would have been clear with a close reading of the previous posts (not a criticism-I’m certainly prone to skim thru posts myself).

Boost is attractive in allot of ways, but the more I think about it, not a likely approach for me on this project. For one, it’s probably overkill for the power levels I’m looking for. Complexity is another (this is subjective, I know). This may sound silly, but things like sound are important to me in this build (again, this is subjective, but na cars sound better to me than turbo cars... silly from a practical sense, but there is little practicality in anything about this car- I could easily have bought a ZL-1 or Hellcat for what I’ll have into this project).

Boosted cars can run great. So can a na LS...or gen 1 sbc, or Mark IV. Aside from the eras in which they were designed, all these platforms have more similarities than not. As does our enthusiasm for them. Let’s not let a difference in preference let this informative conversation turn adversarial.

Thanks for all the continued input. It gives me something fun to focus on while I’m working in the back side of beyond , waiting to see how my paint job will turn out!

 

I apologize for my unec replies to the troll above but this guy trolls my posts for reasons that escape me. I thought I was on point with what your goals are and my efforts are to help you get there while saving you money and headaches.

 

A) Boost isn't for everyone, I agree. However, you're making strawman arguments that don't exist about boost with todays setups. Make a valid unbiased argument and no one will have anything to say.
B) Ad Hominem doesn't apply as none of this is a personal attack. Put your big boy pants on and quick crying because people don't agree with you.
C) This is LS1TECH so your friends with BBC/SFC/MOPARs don't apply. Maybe you should go over there to discuss more outdated information?

As far as OP's setup, he stated in his last post he doesn't want boost even though it'll give him what he wants and room to grow. Everyone has to decide for themselves what they want. Sorry if I simply point out flaws in others arguments when they spread misinformation.

 

This is so wrong its not even funny.

 

There you go girlfriend, now you get it! And I didn't even feel the need to claim Ad Hominem.

 

BBC may be outdated, but they do run. Heavy, but hard to beat dollar for dollar unless you compare starting with a used motor.

Anyway- who else likes the Niners to steal the NFC West this year..? 😁

 

Depends on goals. The LS stuff has come way down, FI or otherwise. It's all about the direct injection LT now, LS is going the way of the SBC.....fine by me cause parts are cheap and power is plentiful lol.

 

Not sure the SBC has really “gone” anywhere, but what you said about the LT coming on is something that makes me think: would putting an LS in this car put a “date stamp” on it like all the cars I see with TPI motors?

i worry about the aftermarket for these motors in five years; the LS production run was only about 20 years, so I wonder how much R&D they will get going forward.

But there will still be good LS cores for some time yet, and that is what makes the motor attractive to me. If it comes down to having to source new block and heads for an LS, I’d likely go another way.

 

Ahhh so now we see where your coming from, its okay you dont need to hide in the closet anymore but you are confused nancy, Im not that kind of person you'll have to keep looking.

As for ad hominem? You already stated it wasn't ad hominem did you forget or are you just confused? Wait, you already stated your confused with your intentions. Its ok, I dont judge

 

Big cube SBC with good heads and valve train can still get down plenty strong but the cost.... wow. This is where the BBC has its door into the mix. IMO it starts at 800whp at that point if you can wrench it together yourself on a parts only build you can line up dollar for dollar with an LS but even then the LS will hold court well til 1000whp, maybe even 1100+ with some of the newer turbos out there. The one thing a BBC brings that the LS does not is that THUMP when crusing around with a decent cam and big enough cubes they are unmatched for audible fear factor. I really love the LS though its light, easy to mod, reliable and has that thrill factor a sbc just doesn't have. Agreed on the cores but they are getting harder to find now that dont require a build so prepare to pay for a good one. R&D wise more happened during the LS days in ten than the sbc in 40. So much data sharing with the net it is really what made the platform superior to the others. I attribute this mostly from us BBC/SBC users in the past who were using Chevy's mostly because we had figured the cost per hp was way less than Ford or especially Mopar plus that Mopar stigma lol. Then the LS launches and this site along with LS1 dot com the best parts to use and what worked/didnt and what we needed became easy to hone in on. No more "stuff a 750 double pumper on there" speed shop stories and well... here we are. 8 second street driven LS builds are not uncommon.

My main issue with sticking NA is what I mentioned earlier plus its all but impossible to put down major power without pedalling or better tires than we currently have on offer. It took me years to get mine sorted so I can mash first from a dig on the street no burnout. When I say street I mean just that. not arm drop pimp juice prep racing on slicks. Big tire in those circumstances sure 800+ whp giv er. Also turbos and stick shifts suck imo so your kind stuck with an auto if you want it to be good or go PD blower for a stick. I like cubes and t56 pump gas and never touch the tune up again stuff. Yes im old

 

Not if you were the last woman on Earth...mmmk cupcake? Already married, try not to be jealous. I forgive you.

 

I see someone thinks they are on YB, not tech.

 

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