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Old 08-29-2005, 09:16 PM
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I sold my cam to be able to buy this one.
Old 08-31-2005, 08:56 PM
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im also buying the magic stick in about 2 months and installing it myself i post dyno results when i break it in
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this will be the cam i'm getting in my car and shoot for 400 as well also texas speed what suspension and gear yall run to bust that car in the tens
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Hey Trevor,

How much more power would this give me over my 231/237 cam? with PP II heads?

would it be worth it?
Old 09-04-2005, 01:35 AM
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Well I got my cam today looks great but no cam card (whats with that?) I will be putting this big *** cam in tommorrow so We'll see what it does in a stock headed gto. I want some low 11's or even 10's but I'll probobly need heads first.... Oh i have to tune the wifes 05 befor i can get heads.
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Yeah, my Magic Stick didn't come with a cam card, either.

When somebody asks, I quote specs from their website..
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Well My car needs tuning very bad. It's so far off It won't hardly run. Dies at every light going through a ton of gas. I'm just going to take it to the local tune shop I've decided I don't have the time to try to tune it myself right now. does any one have a ls1 edit program I can use until I can get to the tuner?
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Great #s with an auto for sure.

Im sure 430s shouldn't be too hard on a m6 (unless i've missed the thread).

Gas milage will depend on the tuning, and your driving habits. Even with $3/gal gas, you'll still be getting on it, and going wot alot, as its just too much fun to not.

1meangto, I'd take the car to a capable tuner, unless you feel like you can do it yourself. There are plenty of different tricks used to get the car to idle at the proper rpm, and not stall, etc. Now if you have edit (like I'm noticing in your sig) you should be able to find a file (look in pcm tuning) that is similar to what you have, and can modify that to fit your car until you get on the dyno/wideband.
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I just increased all my timing tables by 110 percent and it runs sweet. The ltfts are about right also. I'm going to get it tuned at hitech with the dyno and wideband this week so we'll see what it pulls I'm pretty excited now!!!!!!!!!

Oh my old cam was 2 degrees advanced I put this one in straight up so Thats what's with the timing I'm guessing.

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Hey TRMN8R I have the MS3 but my specs are a bit different mine are 238/242 LSA 113 lift 605 610. I have flowtech shorties with true duals dumped after an x pipe M6 ....oh ya LS1 in a 94 Z28. I just want to know what springs/retainers you used. The cam came in box in the car when I got it-
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Originally Posted by 94LS1Z
Hey TRMN8R I have the MS3 but my specs are a bit different mine are 238/242 LSA 113 lift 605 610. I have flowtech shorties with true duals dumped after an x pipe M6 ....oh ya LS1 in a 94 Z28. I just want to know what springs/retainers you used. The cam came in box in the car when I got it-


If it's the TSP MS3, it's 237/242, 603/609. But anyway, I have the prc dual valvesprings and titanium retainers. TSP sells a kit for around 300 bucks with all you need for the install.

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Well those are my specs because mine is a Comp Cams and the card calls it a 25-MS3. So I was finally able to find a kit with the springs and retainers I wanted. I wish I had the TSP MS3 because the kit I found was around 559 for dual springs, retainers, seats and seals. But I guess if you want to make your passenger crap themself you pay for it.
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I have the tsp ms3 in a m6 dyno 416hp 478tq
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that is through 3in y-pipe to stock exhaust with flowmaster muffler
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Originally Posted by 1badass98
I have the tsp ms3 in a m6 dyno 416hp 478tq
478tq??
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Well i dyno'd tonight 385 at the wheels in a gto is pretty good if you ask me.
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Do you guys think it would be worth it to jump from the 231/237 cam to the MS3?
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That is correct 416hp and 478tq
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Originally Posted by 1badass98
That is correct 416hp and 478tq
have the graph?
im guessing a nice converter flash on that...
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Originally Posted by 94LS1Z
Hey TRMN8R I have the MS3 but my specs are a bit different mine are 238/242 LSA 113 lift 605 610. I have flowtech shorties with true duals dumped after an x pipe M6 ....oh ya LS1 in a 94 Z28. I just want to know what springs/retainers you used. The cam came in box in the car when I got it-
If you have a 238/242, .605"/.610" grind it's the Magic Stick v. 2. We ended up with the MS3 at 237/242, .603"/.609" for best clearance.
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