F13 Dyno Results- tuned by FMS
11-23-2004, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian
I gotcha. Enough with licking Jason's ball anyway 
Back to our regularly scheduled program.....FMS....IS.....THE.....****
Back to our regularly scheduled program.....FMS....IS.....THE.....****
Just skimmin thru the FMS cam-selection page. All of the "custom" camshafts have a 112* seperation, or a 114* seperation. Most also, running 4* advancement.
Why are all of these Custom camshafts so similiar?
Where is the variety, for the "various" applications?
If this is all a valve event issue. Could someone please inform me of what valve events are being shot for and why?
All ears.
Kyle
11-23-2004, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SportSide 5.3
Gotta question or two...
Just skimmin thru the FMS cam-selection page. All of the "custom" camshafts have a 112* seperation, or a 114* seperation. Most also, running 4* advancement.
Why are all of these Custom camshafts so similiar?
Where is the variety, for the "various" applications?
If this is all a valve event issue. Could someone please inform me of what valve events are being shot for and why?
All ears.
Kyle
Just skimmin thru the FMS cam-selection page. All of the "custom" camshafts have a 112* seperation, or a 114* seperation. Most also, running 4* advancement.
Why are all of these Custom camshafts so similiar?
Where is the variety, for the "various" applications?
If this is all a valve event issue. Could someone please inform me of what valve events are being shot for and why?
All ears.
Kyle
11-24-2004, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SportSide 5.3
Gotta question or two...
Just skimmin thru the FMS cam-selection page. All of the "custom" camshafts have a 112* seperation, or a 114* seperation. Most also, running 4* advancement.
Why are all of these Custom camshafts so similiar?
Where is the variety, for the "various" applications?
If this is all a valve event issue. Could someone please inform me of what valve events are being shot for and why?
All ears.
Kyle
Just skimmin thru the FMS cam-selection page. All of the "custom" camshafts have a 112* seperation, or a 114* seperation. Most also, running 4* advancement.
Why are all of these Custom camshafts so similiar?
Where is the variety, for the "various" applications?
If this is all a valve event issue. Could someone please inform me of what valve events are being shot for and why?
All ears.
Kyle
Damin,go easy big guy..I think Jason was just blessed or something.
like I said the results shocked me also. I don't see anything way out reach. Most F13 cam only with gears or rearend do 410-415. The results just depend on gear\rearend and bolt on setup. Not that it is a big deal,but he had a open y-pipe.
Its like this is more unbelivable then Jason doing 455 with the T-Rex?
11-24-2004, 07:24 AM
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Man even a few days ago I thought that anybody with a 347 that dyno'd 460 + was bs,,,,, but then a local car just put down 480 hp with some TEA kick *** heads and a TREX cam and this was through full exhaust a 13.1 a/f and 28 degrees timing. I am/was seriously in shock but it happened none the less. I believe the FMS results with this cam only setup because I am actually starting to see really high numbers coming out in alot of these cars, the **** is actually happening lol. Can you guys honestly say that FMS has ever put up bad numbers??? ever??? Give the guy his props for an awesome setup.
I think our motors are just cam monsters, regardless of all the discussions we keep seeing bigger cammed cars making better power!!!!! **** I'm on the verge of getting an FMS cam lol even knowing if I do that I'll have to listen to Vince f*ck with me day and night
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Grats FMS and Kalijah98z for an awesome setup!
(P.S., Damian is an FMS nutswinger )
I think our motors are just cam monsters, regardless of all the discussions we keep seeing bigger cammed cars making better power!!!!! **** I'm on the verge of getting an FMS cam lol even knowing if I do that I'll have to listen to Vince f*ck with me day and night
!!Grats FMS and Kalijah98z for an awesome setup!
(P.S., Damian is an FMS nutswinger
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11-24-2004, 08:28 AM
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The only thing that scares me away from this cam a little is that a TR224 has a lot fatter low-end hp&tq wise...all the way to like 4k where its about even until 5k.
11-24-2004, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Damian
Back to our regularly scheduled program.....FMS....IS.....THE.....****
11-25-2004, 01:22 AM
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You guys Jason just installed my motor and thats it. And Allen tuned it, thats it. The heads are stock, i don't know what else to say, but that its a wednesday motor apparently. And as for Jason, well he does work at Thunder, so...i dunno...
Now on to my opinions on my car. Well i got it back on tuesday afternoon and wow was i surprised. All this hoopla about cam surge and "OMG you're gonna HATE 3:42's", well its not so bad with 3:42's and power doesn't hit/surge till 2500-3000 anyways, so being the pawpaw that i am, its amazing. Part throttle acceleration is really really nice now and to my surprise, the only time you can feel the "cam surge" is crusing around 1700-1900 rpm, and its just a little hickup more than a "surge". 60-70 on the interstate in 6th gear is smoothe. What im not used to though is that the car NEVER STOPS PULLING!!! i mean it never lets you come back up for air unless you shift!
Allan gets two, count em' 2 very very big thumbs up for the extremely streetable cam w/3:42's. It idles and doesn't miss a beat, hell i even turned on the A/C and it drove even better.
JS: I really don't think im gonna go with an EWP b/c the motor is brand new and those 9hp are (to me) not worth the money and worry of an EWP. Now when i get heads for it, thats a different story.
Next mod is deffinately 4:10s though. I drove my buddys Hawk with them and i just can't wait to have them in my car.
Elijah
Now on to my opinions on my car. Well i got it back on tuesday afternoon and wow was i surprised. All this hoopla about cam surge and "OMG you're gonna HATE 3:42's", well its not so bad with 3:42's and power doesn't hit/surge till 2500-3000 anyways, so being the pawpaw that i am, its amazing. Part throttle acceleration is really really nice now and to my surprise, the only time you can feel the "cam surge" is crusing around 1700-1900 rpm, and its just a little hickup more than a "surge". 60-70 on the interstate in 6th gear is smoothe. What im not used to though is that the car NEVER STOPS PULLING!!! i mean it never lets you come back up for air unless you shift!
Allan gets two, count em' 2 very very big thumbs up for the extremely streetable cam w/3:42's. It idles and doesn't miss a beat, hell i even turned on the A/C and it drove even better.
JS: I really don't think im gonna go with an EWP b/c the motor is brand new and those 9hp are (to me) not worth the money and worry of an EWP. Now when i get heads for it, thats a different story.
Next mod is deffinately 4:10s though. I drove my buddys Hawk with them and i just can't wait to have them in my car.
Elijah
11-25-2004, 02:38 AM
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Allan... been trying to get ahodl of you for the last couple weeks.
Have a guy here has TEA 5.3s, 2.055 intake valve, regular setup on the exhaust side.
Looking at a F13 for the car, but intake valve clearence is a concern. You normally install them on a 108 ICL Backing that up a bit should help int valve p/v, but have you measured how much? He doesnt want to have to turn is past 6800-7000, So I was thinking tighten the lobe up and back up the ICL Whats ICL do you think it would clear with no problems? about .10-.15 though off the head
Have a guy here has TEA 5.3s, 2.055 intake valve, regular setup on the exhaust side.
Looking at a F13 for the car, but intake valve clearence is a concern. You normally install them on a 108 ICL Backing that up a bit should help int valve p/v, but have you measured how much? He doesnt want to have to turn is past 6800-7000, So I was thinking tighten the lobe up and back up the ICL Whats ICL do you think it would clear with no problems? about .10-.15 though off the head
11-25-2004, 05:56 AM
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The FM13 is pound for pound the best ******* cam on the market for a daily driven LS1. The power/reliability combo CANNOT be beat...
11-25-2004, 01:25 PM
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Most of you guys 95% have M6's. How is it FM13 114 on an A4. and with what kinda stall are you running it?
11-25-2004, 03:03 PM
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Most of you guys 95% have M6's. How is it FM13 114 on an A4. and with what kinda stall are you running it?
11-25-2004, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Wicked_Hugger99
Im prolly going with the FM13 soon and Allan said my Vig3200 should work fine with it since it really acts like a 3600. Hope that helps.
Take a peak at this:
3600 stall, leaves about 1000, maybe more, rpm until peak tq with the FM13 on this graph. Also, if you come off the line @ a lower rpm, you're giving up a **** load of power. Why not use a smaller camshaft? The green is the TR224. Alot more acceleration. What about something inbetween a TR224 and FM13. A trade off. Or retard the TR224 back 4 degrees. Different ve's, could help out.
Also, what is the shift extension of that stall. Don't wanna fall back into a dead spot.