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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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Just got back from TSP. They installed the TSP MS3, longtubes, TNT F2 kit, with LS1 edit. The car made 402/365 on motor and 563/591 on a 100 shot. The n2o solenoid is not working properly and shuts off at 6k. When I get a new one maybe the numbers will go up. Oh, I'm also running pretty rich so we'll see what happens with a little less fuel.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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dude nice #'s . do u have a video of the car or a dyno sheet?
damn the car must feel like an animal when hitting the NOS.
Ran any body yet thats worth running?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TRMIN8R
Just got back from TSP. They installed the TSP MS3, longtubes, TNT F2 kit, with LS1 edit. The car made 402/365 on motor and 563/591 on a 100 shot. The n2o solenoid is not working properly and shuts off at 6k. When I get a new one maybe the numbers will go up. Oh, I'm also running pretty rich so we'll see what happens with a little less fuel.
Nice numbers, looks more like a 161 shot to me though.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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how high do u intend to spray ont he stock bottom end?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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Good numbers you sure it wasn't a 150 shot? TNT does rate there kits at the wheels so you were probably running the 150 jets,I heard only good things about that cam. How does the car feel all motor and on the bottle?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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Great numbers man. Can you post a graph? I am looking into that cam and would love to see the power it makes down low too.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Do you have an underdrive pulley or ported TB? Were those runs thru the full exhaust or a cutout?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 06:26 PM
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 06:50 PM
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Nope, those were the 100 jets. The 150's were in but the n2o solenoid wasn't working right so we put the 100 in. I don't have a pulley and I kinda ported my own tb but it's not very good. The numbers are through full exhaust. The timing is set at 26 degrees for a 150 shot. But I think I'm gonna get it retuned for a 100 shot so I can make a little more power on motor. I'm running pretty rich too, we will retune that as well. I have the graph and videos. I'll try to get those up. I haven't raced anyone yet cause I have to break in the spec 3. The car feels really good with the cam, I need some gears though.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Freaklt1
Nice numbers, looks more like a 161 shot to me though.

you must be new
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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No not really. If he is getting 161 hp from blah blah jet size, it is a 161 shot. Doesn't matter if it is labeled "100 shot". Put the "150 shot" in the car and he will probably blow his motor up when it gives him 220 hp.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Freaklt1
No not really. If he is getting 161 hp from blah blah jet size, it is a 161 shot. Doesn't matter if it is labeled "100 shot". Put the "150 shot" in the car and he will probably blow his motor up when it gives him 220 hp.
The jetting is for RWHP and for a stock car. When you add items, like this cam, that love nitrous, those numbers grow. Internal parts like heads and cam that are nitrous specific will make a 100 shot way more efficent, thus putting out better numbers.
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Freaklt1
No not really. If he is getting 161 hp from blah blah jet size, it is a 161 shot. Doesn't matter if it is labeled "100 shot". Put the "150 shot" in the car and he will probably blow his motor up when it gives him 220 hp.

hmm..what are all these people thinking doing 150shot TNT wet kits on their stock cars doing over 600rwtq
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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Thanks for the compliments, I will be going back to TSP sometime this week to get some more tuning done. Maybe a little more hp?
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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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u coudl get something like hp tuners coudln't you? have a n/a program made for n/a runs, and a 100 shot, and 150 shot tune made.. then just swap out tunes using ur laptop at the track? or is this not possible?
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I could, but I don't have a laptop. I'm going to get one soon though. Could I do that with LS1 edit?
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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I could, but I don't have a laptop. I'm going to get one soon though. Could I do that with LS1 edit?

i think so.. with either program you should be able to like save the stock tune, a tune for n/a and a tune for n2o.. i know my buddy with hp tuners has quite a few tunes downloaded.. he woudl make some changes, and save his old tune so he could go back to it if the changes didn't help.. he was tuning for his cam.. so i do not see why u coudn't make a tune for n/a, then n2o ect... i heard it takes only like 30 seconds for the hp tuners to swap it.. dunno about edit.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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also ill be running my hp tuner program off a 400mhz laptop that is pretty old.. its no new 1000+$ 2.5 ghz.. but it will only have the hp tuners program on it.. u could prolly pick up a laptop like this pretty cheap...
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Cool, thanks, I'll have to try it.
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Old Jan 24, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Oh, I fixed the "rich" problem. It was actually the fuel solenoid spraying a little fuel into the intake when the system wasn't on. Now that I disconnected it, it starts and runs great.
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