TR224 or TSP224 or TSP224R
#1
TR224 or TSP224 or TSP224R
I am thinking about a cam...
and I know I want to hit the 224 reigon..not too big...not too small
I just want to know alittle more than they post on the sellers sites
Dyno graphs???
and I am sure I will put on some Dual Springs no matter which one I get...
I am thinking the Patriot Gold Dual Springs... I know its probably overkill... but this is a daily driver..and I dont want any broken springs like on my last car...and I dont want to have to change the springs very often...not really going to race it all that much...maybe a couple of times a year at the most
just looking for some Pro Opinions and thoughts
and I know I want to hit the 224 reigon..not too big...not too small
I just want to know alittle more than they post on the sellers sites
Dyno graphs???
and I am sure I will put on some Dual Springs no matter which one I get...
I am thinking the Patriot Gold Dual Springs... I know its probably overkill... but this is a daily driver..and I dont want any broken springs like on my last car...and I dont want to have to change the springs very often...not really going to race it all that much...maybe a couple of times a year at the most
just looking for some Pro Opinions and thoughts
#2
If I had m6 car Id get the tr224 cam with 918's. If I had an auto Id get whatever cam had the most aggressive profile for smoothest idle.
Ive got 918's for 20k miles with .578" lift cam and so far so good. Id think a tr224 cam with .561" lift and 918's would last even longer. If your running stock heads you probably wont gain much more power with more lift anyways.
Ive got 918's for 20k miles with .578" lift cam and so far so good. Id think a tr224 cam with .561" lift and 918's would last even longer. If your running stock heads you probably wont gain much more power with more lift anyways.
#3
Originally Posted by dug
If I had m6 car Id get the tr224 cam with 918's. If I had an auto Id get whatever cam had the most aggressive profile for smoothest idle.
Ive got 918's for 20k miles with .578" lift cam and so far so good. Id think a tr224 cam with .561" lift and 918's would last even longer. If your running stock heads you probably wont gain much more power with more lift anyways.
Ive got 918's for 20k miles with .578" lift cam and so far so good. Id think a tr224 cam with .561" lift and 918's would last even longer. If your running stock heads you probably wont gain much more power with more lift anyways.
and its not the Peak Lift I am looking at... its the Mid lift...where Flow #'s are the most important...its only at peak for a very short time...its in the middle for a longer time..and it happens on the up and the down....so telling me a higher lift cam wont make much more power on stock heads is not always true....
lets try a little more Pro Response Please.....
#4
**** you man. Just tryin to give you some real world input. Im confident with 918's. Youre not the only one who has broke the single manley springs.
WHich spring broke anyways? THe exhaust or intake? If I remember correctly the mti x cam had a lot of lift on the exhaust lobe.
Again **** you. No I aint no pro but I have "unbiased" real world experience with a cam Id thought Id share to help you out.
WHich spring broke anyways? THe exhaust or intake? If I remember correctly the mti x cam had a lot of lift on the exhaust lobe.
Again **** you. No I aint no pro but I have "unbiased" real world experience with a cam Id thought Id share to help you out.
#6
ok...first off...you took that way too personally....
and yes I broke an exhaust spring... 227 @ .571 ...... the intake was 230 @ .591
it wasnt a chinsey cam...I know that... but I broke a single spring...and went through a lot of EXTRA work to get it all running again I got real lucky and didnt hurt anything else....If I had a dual..it would have been a lot safer than a single that could have caused me to drop/bend/break a valve(thankfully it didnt) and a dual is that Extra layer of protection I am looking for...henceforth why I am not going with a single again....
and maybe I should rephrase... I am looking for a little more detail on why on the cam.....not just "you should get this cam"
sorry you got offended......
either way...thank you for the opinion...please tell me why you choose the tr224
and yes I broke an exhaust spring... 227 @ .571 ...... the intake was 230 @ .591
it wasnt a chinsey cam...I know that... but I broke a single spring...and went through a lot of EXTRA work to get it all running again I got real lucky and didnt hurt anything else....If I had a dual..it would have been a lot safer than a single that could have caused me to drop/bend/break a valve(thankfully it didnt) and a dual is that Extra layer of protection I am looking for...henceforth why I am not going with a single again....
and maybe I should rephrase... I am looking for a little more detail on why on the cam.....not just "you should get this cam"
sorry you got offended......
either way...thank you for the opinion...please tell me why you choose the tr224
#7
Sorry man didnt mean to be so pissy. Now I understand why singles make you nervous.
I choose the tr224 cam because it makes more power than most cams until 5k then the bigger cams start to pass it. On the street the tr224 cam is gonna be more fun unless you drive like a maniac always over 5k rpms. Plus I have never heard anyone breaking a 918 with the tr cam. I even read about a guy who road raced his car with the tr224 cam and 918 springs. He didnt have any problems. Thats why I like that setup. I am running the cam I got because I bought it used cheap.
I choose the tr224 cam because it makes more power than most cams until 5k then the bigger cams start to pass it. On the street the tr224 cam is gonna be more fun unless you drive like a maniac always over 5k rpms. Plus I have never heard anyone breaking a 918 with the tr cam. I even read about a guy who road raced his car with the tr224 cam and 918 springs. He didnt have any problems. Thats why I like that setup. I am running the cam I got because I bought it used cheap.
Trending Topics
#8
Originally Posted by soundengineer
I am thinking about a cam...
and I know I want to hit the 224 reigon..not too big...not too small
I just want to know alittle more than they post on the sellers sites
and I know I want to hit the 224 reigon..not too big...not too small
I just want to know alittle more than they post on the sellers sites
What are your other mods? Are you going to run this on stock heads like I am?
#9
I have the TSP224R and love it. Car made 393rwhp 378tq without ASP pulley and through a full crappy flowmaster exhaust. (no cut out) I chose this cam as it has a bit more aggressive lift (.581) and LSA of 112. The car makes great power throughout the powerband and has walked away from a couple of f-bod's with the tr224. I now have a 12-bolt w/3:73's and TSP true duals, the car feels very responsive right off the bat and pulls close to 6400 RPM's...
Great all around cam IMO!
Great all around cam IMO!
#10
the TR224 has proved itself to be one of,if not the best, all around street/strip cam.i think all three cams are fairly close to each other in performance.i liked the price and wanted the extra lift so i bought the TSP224R on a 112lsa(i run the TR220 right now,also a good little cam).do a search and you should find dynos on all three cams.as long as you don't race every weekend or beat on your car all the time the patriot gold duals should last a long time.
nice numbers, Midnite
nice numbers, Midnite
Last edited by 66deuce; 03-15-2005 at 07:56 PM.
#11
this thread is pretty much the exact same thing as the original cam discussion thread.
though there on different lobes you'd be hard pressed to find any difference in relation to your combo.
though there on different lobes you'd be hard pressed to find any difference in relation to your combo.
#13
Originally Posted by 66deuce
the TR224 has proved itself to be one of,if not the best, all around street/strip cam.i think all three cams are fairly close to each other in performance.i liked the price and wanted the extra lift so i bought the TSP224R on a 112lsa(i run the TR220 right now,also a good little cam).do a search and you should find dynos on all three cams.as long as you don't race every weekend or beat on your car all the time the patriot gold duals should last a long time.
nice numbers, Midnite
nice numbers, Midnite
#14
I did 393 SAE corrected with the tr224. Here the dyno vid. This is the last dyno untill the blower goes on.
http://jm.moparplace.com/jmws6dyno/JMWS6LASTNADYNO.wmv
http://jm.moparplace.com/jmws6dyno/JMWS6LASTNADYNO.wmv
#15
You might also consider the TSP 225 camshaft. I prefer it a little bit over the 224 camshafts, and there should be a few posts from guys with recent results. The 225 camshaft is basically the replacement for our 224 cams.
__________________
Jason
Co-Owner, Texas Speed & Performance, Ltd.
2005 Twin Turbo C6
404cid Stroker, 67mm Twins
994rwhp/902lb ft @ 22 psi (mustang dyno) www.Texas-Speed.com
Jason
Co-Owner, Texas Speed & Performance, Ltd.
2005 Twin Turbo C6
404cid Stroker, 67mm Twins
994rwhp/902lb ft @ 22 psi (mustang dyno) www.Texas-Speed.com
#16
Originally Posted by Jason 98 TA
You might also consider the TSP 225 camshaft. I prefer it a little bit over the 224 camshafts, and there should be a few posts from guys with recent results. The 225 camshaft is basically the replacement for our 224 cams.
I have been seeing some awesome numbers with that cam.