Is This Right Or Is There More To Be Gained
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Is This Right Or Is There More To Be Gained I dynoed 375RWHP and 365RWTQ. That was with the tune. And 368RWHP 350RWTQ without the tune. This is cam only 228/230 571 573 112LSA. Is that pretty much it, or is there some left with the tune? I went with a friend of a friend on the tune (HP). He said he was good but when I lookin here I see people who gain alot more with a tune. 
Other mods are in sig. Any imput would be appreciated. Thanks guys!
edited for caps. -Brandon
Other mods are in sig. Any imput would be appreciated. Thanks guys!edited for caps. -Brandon
Last edited by Brandon; Nov 26, 2005 at 12:11 PM. Reason: TURN YOUR CAPS LOCK OFF.
Need to see a graph to determine if there is anyhting left. I don't see a LS6 intake, ported TB or underdrive pulley in your sig either-with those 2 mods you could pick up another 25 rwhp.
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PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK.
See how much nicer things are in lower case.
Post up a graph of the dyno run. Also, what did the car dyno wen stock? Those 18" wheels aren't helping your dyno numbers either. Judging by your sig i'd say you're still missing quite a few bolt ons which is leaving a few ponies on the table.
See how much nicer things are in lower case.
Post up a graph of the dyno run. Also, what did the car dyno wen stock? Those 18" wheels aren't helping your dyno numbers either. Judging by your sig i'd say you're still missing quite a few bolt ons which is leaving a few ponies on the table.
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66deuce is right, you need a ls6 intake and a ported tb to get the numbers up there. throw a underdrive pulley in the mix too.
oh and i edited your post for your caps typing.
oh and i edited your post for your caps typing.
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Originally Posted by RedHardSupra
either the tune is bunk or your are leaking compression or have some other mechanical gremlin in there, which a good tuner should've noticed. either way, i'd get your money back 
i say take it to the track,dyno numbers aren't everything.
227/230 cam is minimal?
I've done cars with more power on a smaller cam and less boltons, so I'd say there's something missing.
I've done cars with more power on a smaller cam and less boltons, so I'd say there's something missing.
Originally Posted by 66deuce
i wouldn't say that.a cam only car with minmal mods(assuming he has only what is in his sig) putting down 375rwhp is not bad at all.what did the car put down before the cam install,320,330,etc.?that would be the best way to quantify the results.some cars dyno lower than others,some dynos read lower,etc.
i say take it to the track,dyno numbers aren't everything.
i say take it to the track,dyno numbers aren't everything.
I'd say this, tune either blows or ; no ls6 intake, and no cut-out. Two major bolt ons that will greatly affect power output on a cam or h/c car using an ORY with a catback and a pre-2001 car(meaning ls6 intake).
Originally Posted by RedHardSupra
227/230 cam is minimal?
I've done cars with more power on a smaller cam and less boltons, so I'd say there's something missing.
I've done cars with more power on a smaller cam and less boltons, so I'd say there's something missing.
Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
no ls6 intake, and no cut-out. Two major bolt ons that will greatly affect power output on a cam or h/c car using an ORY with a catback and a pre-2001 car(meaning ls6 intake).
Originally Posted by RedHardSupra
227/230 cam is minimal?
I've done cars with more power on a smaller cam and less boltons, so I'd say there's something missing.
I've done cars with more power on a smaller cam and less boltons, so I'd say there's something missing.
my car put down 364/349 (mustang dyno) on ls1 intake, stock 99 manifolds and through A4, on a z06 cam. no ported anything.
i'd say he's missing a whole lotta power, even without the boltons.
and if you wanna do the little boltons, remember that they're all tiny, and make sense only really when you do them together. but then you add up the money (300 intake, 100 TB, 200 pulley) and you realize how much money you just dipped into 20 hp and it kinda sucks. so make sure that bang per buck is there.
i'd say he's missing a whole lotta power, even without the boltons.
and if you wanna do the little boltons, remember that they're all tiny, and make sense only really when you do them together. but then you add up the money (300 intake, 100 TB, 200 pulley) and you realize how much money you just dipped into 20 hp and it kinda sucks. so make sure that bang per buck is there.
Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
yep whats missing are the rest of the bolt ons to support the cam and perhaps a better tune as well but without a better intake it cant breath. The ported tb and pulley add a little as well.
Originally Posted by RedHardSupra
my car put down 364/349 (mustang dyno) on ls1 intake, stock 99 manifolds and through A4, on a z06 cam. no ported anything.
i'd say he's missing a whole lotta power, even without the boltons.
and if you wanna do the little boltons, remember that they're all tiny, and make sense only really when you do them together. but then you add up the money (300 intake, 100 TB, 200 pulley) and you realize how much money you just dipped into 20 hp and it kinda sucks. so make sure that bang per buck is there.
i'd say he's missing a whole lotta power, even without the boltons.
and if you wanna do the little boltons, remember that they're all tiny, and make sense only really when you do them together. but then you add up the money (300 intake, 100 TB, 200 pulley) and you realize how much money you just dipped into 20 hp and it kinda sucks. so make sure that bang per buck is there.
Like said above - you need a cutout (spintech catbacks don't flow that great) and the pulley and LS6/ported TB. Could be the dyno too - we've seen up to 15rwhp varience between local dynos.
Did you see the AFR on the dyno and know what timing is in the car? Don't be so quick to think that because the tuner was a friend of a friend that he is to blame. I've re-tuned some cars done by some so-called major shops and let me tell you - just because they take out full page color ads in magazines doesn't mean they can tune! Get some logs on the car and see what is going on - that will tell you more.
Did you see the AFR on the dyno and know what timing is in the car? Don't be so quick to think that because the tuner was a friend of a friend that he is to blame. I've re-tuned some cars done by some so-called major shops and let me tell you - just because they take out full page color ads in magazines doesn't mean they can tune! Get some logs on the car and see what is going on - that will tell you more.
Originally Posted by RedHardSupra
my car put down 364/349 (mustang dyno) on ls1 intake, stock 99 manifolds and through A4, on a z06 cam. no ported anything.