silverTA2002

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Which is EXACTLY what would make a car a dyno queen.

The point of that car isn't to go fast at the track, the point of THAT car is to brag about dyno numbers.

If it was built to go fast, it wouldn't have a stock suspension, etc.

Hennytime

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thats what i was getting at, not setup to race what so ever, but make huge numbers and then manage to spin it down the track and get half decent numbers.

IlEagle

You have this whole idea on point my friend.

Supra's being 'dyno queen's' are a bandwagon trend, and only the ignorant choose to say this without having any idea what they are talking about.


I've seen SNOWMOBILE's with 300-400hp do single digits all day long at the track. Does this mean that a 300whp LT1 is complete junk because it can't get into the 12's? No, it is apples to oranges.

john531

my friends supra made 900 whp and isdriven daily on a 42r

Hennytime

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the way i see it is a dyno queen makes a ton of power but cant get it to the ground and get good et's doesnt matter if its an auto/manual, rear end, suspension because if your making even 400rwhp you should have setup the rest of the car to handle that kind of power, i mean **** there are 340rwhp camaros running low 11's with the stock cam

ss427ci

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Exactly.

If someone mentions dyno numbers with a short belt, open headers, light weight rear wheels (not used for racing) and a huge cam on stock 10 bolt and stock or small converter is a dyno queen. I don't know of any A4 dyno queens mostly are 6spd's with drivers who can't drive. Not judging, just seems to be that way.

pdd

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id luv a ride in that biatch

Slowhawk

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That's what I consider a dyno queen Also these FI cars that make a high dyno pull but could never run that setup on the street due to detination.

Now,Supra's are fast but believe me, If/when my own car makes 1400hp it will run alot faster than high 8's

PewterWSSicc

I agree that a car with tons of power and not made to put it to the ground is a dyno queen. Supras are the most infamous for this, but also Cobra guys do this a lot too, atleast in my area. Because of the ease of modability and to make good power. But a lot of them go stright for the power and worry about the hooking up later on. I mean ive seen guys with KB Cobras making 600rwhp+ and still running stock tires. Now tell me thats not just a nice big waste of power.

eviltwins

Not unless it's a borderline race car, and not a god damn chance an 800 RWHP camaro is going to pull down 172 MPH traps.

99blancoSS

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my definition of a dyno queen would be an 800 hp supra

317indy

Okay well I have a friend that has 800rwhp in his 6 Speed stock suspension Supra that runs 9's. I want to see you run 9's in a six speed, as well as a stock suspension. Oh, and do all that and then take it to a road course and race it...We will see who has the better rounded car...

People really need to get off the Supra's are DynoQueens bandwagon. I used to feel the exact same way. Then I realized that I was being a close minded Domestic loving Import hating bigot.

Blown04Z06

did your therapist make you come home and type that?

sorry man but supra's are the most common of being a dyno queen and top speed racers.

3 summers ago i had a 600whp supra owner that i slaughtered in my 297whp Supercharged S2000 on the track, a road course. i had 700kg spings on the front and 550kg on the rear, it took me 2 months of driving it on the street and auto-x to dial in the suspension in my garage using jacks and 3 alignments before i had it nailed down. my car was set up for road racing with a little extra power from the vortech supercharger. after beating him up brutely 20 laps, 4 sessions 8 hours later, he has the nerve to call me out in front of everyone while i was minding my own business packing up to head home.... "lets take it to the highway" "ill run you too 200 mph". what a douche bag. most of these guys have small **** syndrome and he was a perfect example. small **** douche bag.

import or domestic it doesnt matter dyno queen is what it is.

a friend of mine builds his own civic turbo race cars. his civic puts down 880whp, traps 7.4 in the 1/8th mile. he has all kinds of tuning problems, waste gate wont stay open, ridiculous **** all of the time. but he can brag his civic puts down 880 whp(when its running) i give him props for building the motor, tranny, tubular turbo header, piping all of it himself. at least he didnt out source like kenny tran did(whoops did i say that out loud) picking on another supra race car that ran 8.x @ 181mph

VINCE

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This is comical. Deep down inside we are ALL dyno queens. We all know that the more power you put down on the dyno means the more potential YOUR car could have when it comes to getting the desired result YOU want. Remember I said what YOU want. To knock someone for wanting high dyno #'s and not taking the car to the track is just silly. What someone else does with their money is there business. When you put up the money they have invested in their car and pay for them to go to the track then technically you can start criticizing. Until you pay that persons bills then criticizing them about what they do after they spend their money is silly.

300bhp/ton

You sound like you should sell that Fbody in your sig and get a Supra instead.

You seem happy to claim this and that and then say well it's still stock this and that compared to a Fbody or different.

OK well take a Corvette then, it has IRS and a 6 speed manual and given the same rwhp number will generally be faster.

A narrow power band is indicative of a VERY highly tuned small(er) displacement engine. The Supra needs to run at almost double the state of tune as a Corvette does to match it's bhp/lb ft but that means more and more rpms are required which results in a ever higher power band.

2.0 4 cylinder engines are the same, sure Evo's can make impressive PEAK numbers but just take a look at how narrow the power band is and how high it is in the rpms. Remove the weight and 4wd advantage and they simply don't make as much power as much of the time.

Also you mention road courses, well since when has the Supra been king of any road course except in races where Supra's are the only car compeating?

I'm not dissing the Supra it's a technical marvel that performs well and if you stand far enough away from it, even looks half decent. But it is not the ultimate and never will be.

Not all supra's are dyno queens and many other cars can be included such as some LS1's if that's how they are setup. But it doesn't change the fact behind the physics.

If you want to look at it another way take 2 indentical cars (car 'x' and car 'y') but one runs a more radical and OTT setup. And so dyno's far higher numbers, however it's a total pig to drive and due to the setup makes it easy to bog down or be caught out of the power band and when it is in its power band it just becomes almost undrivable.

So even though it makes more power than the other car, 95% of the time on the street, strip or circuit it is no faster and maybe even slower than the identical car with less power. This would certainly qualify as a dyno queen.

fasttagurl

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I have been told by many shops that my LS1 is not a dyno queen because it is an automatic. And my dyno graphs are inaccurate as well. Running 7.3s in the 1/8 with a 1.57 60", I KNOW I have more than 357hp as the dyno sheet told me. More like mid-400s! Not sure about manuals.

317indy

I actually had plans on buying a Supra this week...But those plans were negated when I found out my friends Supra had been stolen and crashed...

99blancoSS

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I live in the land of rice and supa dupras. I've seen 600 rwhp supras not be able to put it down with modified suspensions. Great on a dyno but no traction. Hence dyno queen..
They are nice cars, not knocking it, has great potential to make unheard of power, but traction is another thing. I know, I'm fighting it at 440 rwhp.
So take your sensitive supra whine elsewhere.. I love these "my friend has this" guys.
And yes most supra dupra owners will tell you the same thing. If they could hook up, get traction.. yada yada yada
People probably pick on the supra more because its easier to get to that level of no traction. Forged internals from the factory gives you a head start.

99blancoSS

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I've been to the dyno with the big supras and talked to many an owner and racer with one. They turn them up for the dyno, and down for the track. Dyno is for show. And tuning if your using a mustang dyno.