Final #s on my 402
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Im sure its been said but the cam isnt that big, my guess is with the patriot stage 3's that they werent milled and the compression on your engine isnt that high, and your running an ls6 intake, so that would be my guess, but 450 rwhp isnt too shabby with the ls6 and stock tb and 1 3/4 headers. Maybe step up to the 90/90 and some stepped 1 7/8th headers and you will see more power. Maybe even mill the heads for more compression if you dont want to go with a bigger cam.
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Also, what kindof converter are you running? locked or unlocked?
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Total power is made up of all the parts, no one part may be bad in itself, but each one is less than optimal. If you replaced them all with optimal parts. 225 heads, larger cam, intake, tb, maybe tune etc all will contribute towards your "missing" power IMO.
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I think it's your combination of heads, intake and throttle body that's killing your numbers. I've seen many low dyno numbers with the same heads you're running on 408's and 402's. It would be interesting to see what you would make by just going to an AFR or ETP head and then add the 90\90, measuring results along the way.
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it is NOT the headers. they are not hurting you.
a fast 90/90 would probably pick up 30rwhp.
those run-flats are also very heavy. they are probalby taking an additional 10rwhp to spin
a fast 90/90 would probably pick up 30rwhp.
those run-flats are also very heavy. they are probalby taking an additional 10rwhp to spin
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Is there any reason to think you might be getting weak gas? Maybe burn up what's in the tank now, and then go to a different station & try a fresh tank of sunoco 93 and see if there is more in the tune? Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
Im sure its been said but the cam isnt that big, my guess is with the patriot stage 3's that they werent milled and the compression on your engine isnt that high, and your running an ls6 intake, so that would be my guess, but 450 rwhp isnt too shabby with the ls6 and stock tb and 1 3/4 headers. Maybe step up to the 90/90 and some stepped 1 7/8th headers and you will see more power. Maybe even mill the heads for more compression if you dont want to go with a bigger cam.
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Originally Posted by Cyborg
Is there any reason to think you might be getting weak gas? Maybe burn up what's in the tank now, and then go to a different station & try a fresh tank of sunoco 93 and see if there is more in the tune? Just a thought.
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I'm no chemistry major but I would think that year old gas couldn't help your situation. Easy swap. So the tune was done with the year old crap gas too? Maybe somebody else will chime in and say gas is gas...however tuning on gas that has been in the tank for a year? I don't run gas that is over a month old in my lawnmower let alone a sweet motor like you have. Just a thought.
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Gas is not gas. Gas breaks down after a few months if I'm not mistaken. ****, I went from the middle of October to January 1st without driving my car and it ran like ****. Thank god I had parked it with only a 1/4 tank. I filled it up with some Shell 93 and put some octane booster and it ran like a champ.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
#'s look good to me for what you got.The intake and exhaust is choking the setup,nevermind the old gas.
The Cam is not too small.
The Cam is not too small.