'01 Formy dyno, M6, Ms3, PP 243's,12 Bolt...#'s
06-26-2006, 09:27 PM
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'01 Formy dyno, M6, Ms3, PP 243's,12 Bolt...#'s Mods are as follows...
-'01 Formula 33,xxx miles.. .third setup on car..
Power adders...
-Patriot Ls6 243 casting heads...flowed 300 cfm .600 intake...225 exhaust .600
-Magic stick Version 3....237-242 113 lsa
-PaceSetter ceramic coated Long tubes 1 3/4, and ORP.
-Stock Ws6 catback with 3in McCord E cutout.
-powerbond 25% UD pulley
-MTI Clear lid ....thunder racing maf ends...smooth bellow
-Self Ported TB
-Self port matched Ls6 intake
-msd wires...Ngk tr6 plugs (new)
-New fuel filter
-new Amsoil threw out everything.
-XXX Tune
Drive Train
-Ls7 Clutch , Ls2 flywheel
-stock Aluminum DS with 1350 yoke
-Strange 12 bolt with S/T series axles, and 373 gears.
lots of suspension....
This was on 18in Z06 wheels....
Nitrous numbers to follow next week.
96 degrees out side...38% Humidity
402/361 threw stock catback
415/369 Threw e-cutout
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...3PP243dyno.jpg
-'01 Formula 33,xxx miles.. .third setup on car..
Power adders...
-Patriot Ls6 243 casting heads...flowed 300 cfm .600 intake...225 exhaust .600
-Magic stick Version 3....237-242 113 lsa
-PaceSetter ceramic coated Long tubes 1 3/4, and ORP.
-Stock Ws6 catback with 3in McCord E cutout.
-powerbond 25% UD pulley
-MTI Clear lid ....thunder racing maf ends...smooth bellow
-Self Ported TB
-Self port matched Ls6 intake
-msd wires...Ngk tr6 plugs (new)
-New fuel filter
-new Amsoil threw out everything.
-XXX Tune
Drive Train
-Ls7 Clutch , Ls2 flywheel
-stock Aluminum DS with 1350 yoke
-Strange 12 bolt with S/T series axles, and 373 gears.
lots of suspension....
This was on 18in Z06 wheels....
Nitrous numbers to follow next week.
96 degrees out side...38% Humidity
402/361 threw stock catback
415/369 Threw e-cutout
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...3PP243dyno.jpg
06-27-2006, 08:42 AM
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Not to be a dick, but those numbers are kinda low considering the size of the cam, along with some heads, I was expecting at least 430 or so. A 12 bolt isn't going to eat that much power, and the tq seems to be way low. I would ask and see if your tuner played with the timing at all, or if he just did the a/f corrections.
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06-27-2006, 09:15 AM
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yep i dont know whats up there but my ms3 camed car with 5.3l heads made 400rwhp on a 14.1 a\f before i got it tuned and that was with a 3500 stall 3.73 gears and a steel driveshaft
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Originally Posted by HOSS
Not to be a dick, but those numbers are kinda low considering the size of the cam, along with some heads, I was expecting at least 430 or so. A 12 bolt isn't going to eat that much power, and the tq seems to be way low. I would ask and see if your tuner played with the timing at all, or if he just did the a/f corrections.
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06-27-2006, 01:59 PM
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I'm the one that tuned the car. I moved the timing around seeing if it would pick up and that is just what the car made. This isn't the first one I've tuned by any means. As for the shop, the dyno is in a temp location till construction is done on my new shop which should be ready in a few months.
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this guy john is a respected tuner and it doesnt matter the size of the shop neither, no its not thunder racing but they do plenty of work and do a very good job at it...it was hot and muggy today they are goin to redyno it when it cools off..every car is different and every combo is different..thows are good #s and all that counts is the track times not dyno racing...
06-27-2006, 08:00 PM
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Also I Noticed You Speak Of N20 Is This A N20 Tune Or A Max Effort Tune?
But Really My Car Did 400 Unlocked With A 14:1 A\f And I Have A Very Similar Setup As You ..... And This Was On A Very Consertive Dyno In High 90 Deg Temps With Lots Of Humdity And A Heatsoaked Motor.. With Your Setup You Should See Another 40hp
But Really My Car Did 400 Unlocked With A 14:1 A\f And I Have A Very Similar Setup As You ..... And This Was On A Very Consertive Dyno In High 90 Deg Temps With Lots Of Humdity And A Heatsoaked Motor.. With Your Setup You Should See Another 40hp
06-27-2006, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jpr5690
Also I Noticed You Speak Of N20 Is This A N20 Tune Or A Max Effort Tune?
But Really My Car Did 400 Unlocked With A 14:1 A\f And I Have A Very Similar Setup As You ..... And This Was On A Very Consertive Dyno In High 90 Deg Temps With Lots Of Humdity And A Heatsoaked Motor.. With Your Setup You Should See Another 40hp
But Really My Car Did 400 Unlocked With A 14:1 A\f And I Have A Very Similar Setup As You ..... And This Was On A Very Consertive Dyno In High 90 Deg Temps With Lots Of Humdity And A Heatsoaked Motor.. With Your Setup You Should See Another 40hp
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Originally Posted by Jpr5690
Who Said It Was The Tune.... Mabye You Have Valve Float Or Mabye Somethijg Else Is Amiss ...
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06-27-2006, 09:57 PM
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he guys thanks for the feedback either way...
it doesnt have to dyno high to haul ***.
the setup N/A held off two different 600cc bikes now...one from a 40 roll and the other from a 25 and up into fourth gear. The bike was at my back wheel... just as an example...
now as far as the car and dyno numbers....
stock with a lid it made...321/348....with the procharger setup i used to have it made both 460 on the high side and 442 on the low side.
now this N/A setup makes 415/369.. its possible the motor is hurt now...it usually sits in the garage but when it goes out on the road it gets driven pretty hard. all 33k hard so far. And its seen the bottle before as well.
Now in my opinion ...if that 12 bolt wasnt in there the car would be making just about what every other ms3 car has...or right in that ball park.
I think its right about where it should be for what i have...
and to be honest it feels faster than it did with any of the other setups...i have also had a H/C z28 before (432hp)....and the formy feels quicker!
But anyways..lets hope it shines on the juice....i will have bottle results next monday....
it doesnt have to dyno high to haul ***.
the setup N/A held off two different 600cc bikes now...one from a 40 roll and the other from a 25 and up into fourth gear. The bike was at my back wheel... just as an example...
now as far as the car and dyno numbers....
stock with a lid it made...321/348....with the procharger setup i used to have it made both 460 on the high side and 442 on the low side.
now this N/A setup makes 415/369.. its possible the motor is hurt now...it usually sits in the garage but when it goes out on the road it gets driven pretty hard. all 33k hard so far. And its seen the bottle before as well.
Now in my opinion ...if that 12 bolt wasnt in there the car would be making just about what every other ms3 car has...or right in that ball park.
I think its right about where it should be for what i have...
and to be honest it feels faster than it did with any of the other setups...i have also had a H/C z28 before (432hp)....and the formy feels quicker!
But anyways..lets hope it shines on the juice....i will have bottle results next monday....
06-27-2006, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HartAttack
he guys thanks for the feedback either way...
it doesnt have to dyno high to haul ***.
the setup N/A held off two different 600cc bikes now...one from a 40 roll and the other from a 25 and up into fourth gear. The bike was at my back wheel... just as an example...
now as far as the car and dyno numbers....
stock with a lid it made...321/348....with the procharger setup i used to have it made both 460 on the high side and 442 on the low side.
now this N/A setup makes 415/369.. its possible the motor is hurt now...it usually sits in the garage but when it goes out on the road it gets driven pretty hard. all 33k hard so far. And its seen the bottle before as well.
Now in my opinion ...if that 12 bolt wasnt in there the car would be making just about what every other ms3 car has...or right in that ball park.
I think its right about where it should be for what i have...
and to be honest it feels faster than it did with any of the other setups...i have also had a H/C z28 before (432hp)....and the formy feels quicker!
But anyways..lets hope it shines on the juice....i will have bottle results next monday....
it doesnt have to dyno high to haul ***.
the setup N/A held off two different 600cc bikes now...one from a 40 roll and the other from a 25 and up into fourth gear. The bike was at my back wheel... just as an example...
now as far as the car and dyno numbers....
stock with a lid it made...321/348....with the procharger setup i used to have it made both 460 on the high side and 442 on the low side.
now this N/A setup makes 415/369.. its possible the motor is hurt now...it usually sits in the garage but when it goes out on the road it gets driven pretty hard. all 33k hard so far. And its seen the bottle before as well.
Now in my opinion ...if that 12 bolt wasnt in there the car would be making just about what every other ms3 car has...or right in that ball park.
I think its right about where it should be for what i have...
and to be honest it feels faster than it did with any of the other setups...i have also had a H/C z28 before (432hp)....and the formy feels quicker!
But anyways..lets hope it shines on the juice....i will have bottle results next monday....
good luck!!
peace
