Long awaited update not too happy...
Long awaited update not too happy... ok here my update on the dyno results the mods are in my sig minus the ud pulley they couldnt get it on..
Max Power 417.56
Max Torque 367.56
A/F is right on line..
I would post the dyno but i dont have a scanner maybe i can just get it e-mailed from the shop?? ill find out.
im kinda upset my upgrade was only that much power. should I be?? or does that sound about right??
However I still dont have my car because the front of the engine is leaking and have very low oil pressure on idle.. they think its the new oil pump.
Max Power 417.56
Max Torque 367.56
A/F is right on line..
I would post the dyno but i dont have a scanner maybe i can just get it e-mailed from the shop?? ill find out.
im kinda upset my upgrade was only that much power. should I be?? or does that sound about right??
However I still dont have my car because the front of the engine is leaking and have very low oil pressure on idle.. they think its the new oil pump.
that weird cuz i just added the ls6 stage 1's to my f13 and i gained 10 rwhp. technically 20 but i also did 410's. i did 399rwhp 383rwtq cam only and 409rwhp 383 rwtq after the heads and ud pulley. im seriously debating ordering the ms4 this monday. and yes it was tuned and a/f was also solid.
I ment 1slowls1
I think NEDyno has a mustang dyno and that might be one of the reasons for the lower numbers. BTW kevin is an excellent tuner so you are all good in that dept...
I think NEDyno has a mustang dyno and that might be one of the reasons for the lower numbers. BTW kevin is an excellent tuner so you are all good in that dept...
Originally Posted by slow trap
the hp and tq both seem to be low, around 20 hp/tq low.was that on straight 93 octane ?do you know what the timing at max hp/tq is ?
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The Tq numbers are what get me. They just seem REALLY low. We did a 00' M6 with a TSP 231/231, Patriot 5.3L heads and other bolt ons. He was around 420/380 and IMO his tq is low as well. Not to make anyone mad, it just seems that the TSP cams don't make a whole lot of tq.
Originally Posted by 1slowls1
No I wasnt there, I asked them to call me and let me know when they were goin to tune it so i can be there for it, I ended up calling them around 2 and they said they were almost done, I was kinda mad at that. Yes it was on 93 octane, however the temp while tuning was around 88* and a bit muggy but I doubt that was the problem. Because I was not there during the tune I dont really know any of the timing or anything.
I've also noticed TSP Cams lacking alittle in torque sometime's,but if the heads are lacking midrange flow that could hurt midrange.
Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Don't be mad a t them.I wouldn't of called you either if I did the build. When tuning you don't really need the customer there seeing the #'s as they progress.It's aggrivating as a tuner.
I've also noticed TSP Cams lacking alittle in torque sometime's,but if the heads are lacking midrange flow that could hurt midrange.
I've also noticed TSP Cams lacking alittle in torque sometime's,but if the heads are lacking midrange flow that could hurt midrange.
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Unless a customer does a baseline before the mods, they really do not know how much HP/TQ they have gained with mods. Car to car, dyno to dyno variances can stack up for or against them. I can understand your dissatisfaction with them not calling if they said they would and should have. Beyond that, customers usually get a much better tune when they, or worse yet, and their friends are not present. Tuning envolves a lot of concentration, especially if something isn't going right, like software issues. A tuner has a certain time window to tune in, never enough, and the more deticated tuning time he gets, the better the tune. Once I have had a customer's friend follow me around while I was tuning, asking me a lot of questions about their personal car, very distracting. After bringing it to the attention of the customer and no action was taken, this customer could have had a better tune.
Mill the heads to bring the compression up--the dynamic compression is very low with TSP's cams. Then advance the cam 4 degrees to further help this. That will bring the torque way up and probably help the top end slightly by bringing the intake valve closing down to optimal for the LS6.
Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Mill the heads to bring the compression up--the dynamic compression is very low with TSP's cams. Then advance the cam 4 degrees to further help this. That will bring the torque way up and probably help the top end slightly by bringing the intake valve closing down to optimal for the LS6.
Couldn't have said it better.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
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2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
Originally Posted by JakeFusion™
Mill the heads to bring the compression up--the dynamic compression is very low with TSP's cams. Then advance the cam 4 degrees to further help this. That will bring the torque way up and probably help the top end slightly by bringing the intake valve closing down to optimal for the LS6.
Originally Posted by gman
With the cam that he is using would he beable to mill his heads without having to flycut the pistons.
Cutting the pistons isn't that hard and is a very good way to get your combo set up ideally.