Vengeance Racing/TrickFlow Do it again!!!! 488RWHP/430RWTQ 346 STREET CAR!!!!
09-09-2006, 08:30 AM
#21
Originally Posted by gollum
Good news! New injecters and high volume fuel pump is not needed.
Last edited by Ron@Vengeance; 09-11-2006 at 12:32 PM.
09-09-2006, 03:03 PM
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You made those numbers with a 90/90 combo, sweet. I unfortunately still have a 78/78 combo, but made 473/431 to the wheels. I can only hope that the Fast 90 and 90 mm TB can put my LG prepped car to your level. You guys seem to have came up with a wicked package that many people would love to have installed on their cars. Awesome!!! Good luck on the 500 rwhp mark. That was my goal all along, but obviously I fell a bit short. Forged 402 in the works so who cares.
09-09-2006, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hardtop
Great results Ron, and Mike. Any results with this cam and stock LS6 heads? Some of us might want to go cam only for a while, and get the TFS heads when the budget allows. 
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09-11-2006, 11:08 AM
#29
Originally Posted by Patrick G
Outstanding numbers!
It's interesting that you posted the before dyno graphs as 340/360 rwhp/rwtq because Weekend Racer quoted his pre-heads/cam numbers as 360/382 from this:
2002 Camaro SS w/full bolt-ons 11,000 miles
List:
1 3/4 dynatech supermaXX LT headers no cats
90/90 Tb/intake
85 mm MAF sensor
ASP pulley
Lid w/K&N filter
Cold air kit
tubular subframes
short throw shifter
Stock 10-bolt w/4.10 gears
Dyno results: 360 rwhp 382 ft.lbs.torque following dyno tune
1/4 mile: 12.78 @ 111 mph at Commerce in Atlanta GA/ hot as hell outside crappy track prep
60 ft time: 1.92 w/ Nitto drag radials
Heads bought/ cam will be 232/234
A 128 rwhp/48 rwtq gain sounds like the real before/after numbers and not 148 rwhp/70 rwtq gain. Not trying to take anything away from the numbers, like I said, they're outstanding! I'm just trying to get a handle on how much power the TFS heads and mystery cam added. I'm always looking for more power myself.
It's interesting that you posted the before dyno graphs as 340/360 rwhp/rwtq because Weekend Racer quoted his pre-heads/cam numbers as 360/382 from this:
2002 Camaro SS w/full bolt-ons 11,000 miles
List:
1 3/4 dynatech supermaXX LT headers no cats
90/90 Tb/intake
85 mm MAF sensor
ASP pulley
Lid w/K&N filter
Cold air kit
tubular subframes
short throw shifter
Stock 10-bolt w/4.10 gears
Dyno results: 360 rwhp 382 ft.lbs.torque following dyno tune
1/4 mile: 12.78 @ 111 mph at Commerce in Atlanta GA/ hot as hell outside crappy track prep
60 ft time: 1.92 w/ Nitto drag radials
Heads bought/ cam will be 232/234
A 128 rwhp/48 rwtq gain sounds like the real before/after numbers and not 148 rwhp/70 rwtq gain. Not trying to take anything away from the numbers, like I said, they're outstanding! I'm just trying to get a handle on how much power the TFS heads and mystery cam added. I'm always looking for more power myself.
09-11-2006, 11:13 AM
#30
Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Looks like this car is about 20 RWHP and 10 RWTQ better then what your car did through the mufflers when you had a big cam, which is about the difference that we had seen on the engine dyno between the TFS and AFR heads.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
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09-11-2006, 11:31 AM
#31
Originally Posted by Miles in Florida
Why would temperature make that much a difference if the numbers are SAE corrected?
09-11-2006, 12:25 PM
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You guys are AWESOME!!! I finally ran my car out here in Cali. after you guys did my motor 2 years ago. Times sucked because of 1600' elevation. However, I beat an LT1 Trans Am that was completely gutted (no carpet, seats, etc.) , except drivers seat, and rollcage. I beat him on the motor (full interior etc), and he was spraying. So, GOOD JOB VENGEANCE!!!
09-11-2006, 12:37 PM
#33
Originally Posted by Patrick G
Outstanding numbers!
It's interesting that you posted the before dyno graphs as 340/360 rwhp/rwtq because Weekend Racer quoted his pre-heads/cam numbers as 360/382 from this:
2002 Camaro SS w/full bolt-ons 11,000 miles
List:
1 3/4 dynatech supermaXX LT headers no cats
90/90 Tb/intake
85 mm MAF sensor
ASP pulley
Lid w/K&N filter
Cold air kit
tubular subframes
short throw shifter
Stock 10-bolt w/4.10 gears
Dyno results: 360 rwhp 382 ft.lbs.torque following dyno tune
1/4 mile: 12.78 @ 111 mph at Commerce in Atlanta GA/ hot as hell outside crappy track prep
60 ft time: 1.92 w/ Nitto drag radials
Heads bought/ cam will be 232/234
A 128 rwhp/48 rwtq gain sounds like the real before/after numbers and not 148 rwhp/70 rwtq gain. Not trying to take anything away from the numbers, like I said, they're outstanding! I'm just trying to get a handle on how much power the TFS heads and mystery cam added. I'm always looking for more power myself.
It's interesting that you posted the before dyno graphs as 340/360 rwhp/rwtq because Weekend Racer quoted his pre-heads/cam numbers as 360/382 from this:
2002 Camaro SS w/full bolt-ons 11,000 miles
List:
1 3/4 dynatech supermaXX LT headers no cats
90/90 Tb/intake
85 mm MAF sensor
ASP pulley
Lid w/K&N filter
Cold air kit
tubular subframes
short throw shifter
Stock 10-bolt w/4.10 gears
Dyno results: 360 rwhp 382 ft.lbs.torque following dyno tune
1/4 mile: 12.78 @ 111 mph at Commerce in Atlanta GA/ hot as hell outside crappy track prep
60 ft time: 1.92 w/ Nitto drag radials
Heads bought/ cam will be 232/234
A 128 rwhp/48 rwtq gain sounds like the real before/after numbers and not 148 rwhp/70 rwtq gain. Not trying to take anything away from the numbers, like I said, they're outstanding! I'm just trying to get a handle on how much power the TFS heads and mystery cam added. I'm always looking for more power myself.
Looks like I posted the graph before the 90/90 and headers..... If ya look at it like that, then say the TrickFlows/Headers/90-90/Camshaft added 148/70
Still seems like an impressive gain no matter how ya break it down. ..... 
09-11-2006, 04:23 PM
#37
Originally Posted by Jimmyz
Wow! Wonder what those heads, Intake & TB would do on a stroker?
09-11-2006, 05:03 PM
#39
Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Looks like this car is about 20 RWHP and 10 RWTQ better then what your car did through the mufflers when you had a big cam, which is about the difference that we had seen on the engine dyno between the TFS and AFR heads.
Those are some great numbers guys. Did you flow the heads after you touched them up? If you can, post up the specs of the cam or at least a closer window. Good luck hitting 500, your not far off of it!
Also like to give you guys props on posting all the run info, lots of high number cars around here post up but give out no more info. Looks like one of the first REAL high dynos in a long time.
Last edited by WS6FirebirdTA00; 09-11-2006 at 05:11 PM.
09-12-2006, 08:25 AM
#40
Originally Posted by Jimmyz
Wow! Wonder what those heads, Intake & TB would do on a stroker?
Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance
Brian,
JimmyZ actually has a 383.... Stock bore...
JimmyZ actually has a 383.... Stock bore...
In that case, since the TFS head is the best 3.90 bore head we have seen. The more demand you put on it, the bigger the seperation between it and the competition. In other words, if the TFS head is 20HP better on a 346 then another head, then on a 383 it may be 25-30 HP better, does this make sense? A supercharged engine will do the same thing, if a head is worth 40 RWHP normally aspirated, then at 14 lbs of boost it will be worth almost 80 RWHP.