Dyno results.
Originally Posted by miami993c297
I have tried to figure the TORQUE # at 3000rpm printing the graph through a big scale, I am totally amazed :
Result is I find those a LOT OVER THE TORQUE # OF PATRICK G who is one of the highest I ever recorded for a 346ci.
WHERE IS THE MAGIC IN THIS NEW COMBO ??
AND IT IS ALSO SO CHEAP (then good to go!!)..... compare to others so elaborated.
IVC seems to be at 48* and SCR : 10.6 and DCR 8.05
Some one to clear my thought or to help me understand where I make the mistake ???
Christian
Result is I find those a LOT OVER THE TORQUE # OF PATRICK G who is one of the highest I ever recorded for a 346ci.
WHERE IS THE MAGIC IN THIS NEW COMBO ??
AND IT IS ALSO SO CHEAP (then good to go!!)..... compare to others so elaborated.
IVC seems to be at 48* and SCR : 10.6 and DCR 8.05
Some one to clear my thought or to help me understand where I make the mistake ???
Christian
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
Hi Patrick
Thank you to correct my first mistake about the IVC :
it is 46* at 0.050 and 70.5* at 0.006 wich is following your rules the max IVC compatible with a F.A.S.T. 90/90 on a 346ci.
If I consider for SauronWS6 241's heads a SCR (this is may be optimistic) of 10.7/1 the DRC comes to 8.10, pretty low no for a good power under the curve (and also not favorable to max torque) !
Are the 19* of overlap at 0.050 the key # to this torque at 3000rpm or is it the IVO at 0.006 of 34.5* vs the EVC of 33.5* still at 0.006??
Or maybe this cam is perfectly balanced with the shape and the flow # of those 241...
This combo is the best in my book at 3000rpm (higher than your's) that I have seen around (for a street car, na, no NOS)... but so good all the way to the top!!!
It is going to be killer on the street, but what about the track??
Christian
Thank you to correct my first mistake about the IVC :
it is 46* at 0.050 and 70.5* at 0.006 wich is following your rules the max IVC compatible with a F.A.S.T. 90/90 on a 346ci.
If I consider for SauronWS6 241's heads a SCR (this is may be optimistic) of 10.7/1 the DRC comes to 8.10, pretty low no for a good power under the curve (and also not favorable to max torque) !
Are the 19* of overlap at 0.050 the key # to this torque at 3000rpm or is it the IVO at 0.006 of 34.5* vs the EVC of 33.5* still at 0.006??
Or maybe this cam is perfectly balanced with the shape and the flow # of those 241...
This combo is the best in my book at 3000rpm (higher than your's) that I have seen around (for a street car, na, no NOS)... but so good all the way to the top!!!
It is going to be killer on the street, but what about the track??
Christian
This combo in my opinion has no weak spots in the graph. It's extremely well balanced. It will do very well at both the track and the street.
And I wouldn't poo-poo the 8.10:1 DCR. Most people running an M34 with stock heads have dynamic compression in the low 7s. This cam is much better for lower compression combos.
And I wouldn't poo-poo the 8.10:1 DCR. Most people running an M34 with stock heads have dynamic compression in the low 7s. This cam is much better for lower compression combos.
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
Hi cws T/A
10.7 was just a guess for the calculation.
If you have the SCR at 10.12 then your DCR is 7.70 (that's low) for a 46* IVC.
Does someone knows if it is Flywheel HP or Rear Wheel HP??
Christian
10.7 was just a guess for the calculation.
If you have the SCR at 10.12 then your DCR is 7.70 (that's low) for a 46* IVC.
Does someone knows if it is Flywheel HP or Rear Wheel HP??
Christian
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Originally Posted by miami993c297
Hi cws T/A
10.7 was just a guess for the calculation.
If you have the SCR at 10.12 then your DCR is 7.70 (that's low) for a 46* IVC.
Does someone knows if it is Flywheel HP or Rear Wheel HP??
Christian
10.7 was just a guess for the calculation.
If you have the SCR at 10.12 then your DCR is 7.70 (that's low) for a 46* IVC.
Does someone knows if it is Flywheel HP or Rear Wheel HP??
Christian
Originally Posted by SauronWS6
These are numbers at the wheels and SAE corrected.
Very impressed by your torque down low, your numbers are over Patrick G numbers at 3000 rpm....
Christian
a graph of Patrick with his set-up dynoed at MTI, your torque curve and the power down is definitively HUGE : monster combo with a BIGGER cam....
Last edited by miami993c297; Sep 11, 2006 at 06:23 AM.
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Originally Posted by miami993c297
One more time congratulation, I will wait for your drivability results.
Very impressed by your torque down low, your numbers are over Patrick G numbers at 3000 rpm....
Christian
a graph of Patrick with his set-up dynoed at MTI, your torque curve and the power down is definitively HUGE : monster combo with a BIGGER cam....
Very impressed by your torque down low, your numbers are over Patrick G numbers at 3000 rpm....
Christian
a graph of Patrick with his set-up dynoed at MTI, your torque curve and the power down is definitively HUGE : monster combo with a BIGGER cam....
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2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
2013 Corvette Grand Sport A6 LME forged 416, Greg Good ported TFS 255 LS3 heads, 222/242 .629"/.604" 121LSA Pat G blower cam, ARH 1 7/8" headers, ESC Novi 1500 Supercharger w/8 rib direct drive conversion, 747rwhp/709rwtq on 93 octane, 801rwhp/735rwtq on race fuel, 10.1 @ 147.25mph 1/4 mile, 174.7mph Half Mile.
2016 Corvette Z51 M7 Magnuson Heartbeat 2300 supercharger, TSP LT headers, Pat G tuned, 667rwhp, 662rwtq, 191mph TX Mile.
2009.5 Pontiac G8 GT 6.0L, A6, AFR 230v2 heads. 506rwhp/442rwtq. 11.413 @ 121.29mph 1/4 mile, 168.7mph TX Mile
2000 Pewter Ram Air Trans Am M6 heads/cam 508 rwhp/445 rwtq SAE, 183.092 TX Mile
2022 Cadillac Escalade 6.2L A10 S&B CAI, Corsa catback.
2023 Corvette 3LT Z51 soon to be modified.
Custom LSX tuning in person or via email press here.
Both of those graphs are amazing. The torque is the really amazing part. Looks like I know where I need to go advice in the next few months as I get ready for my Vette to get a head/cam setup. 
Originally Posted by SauronWS6
Patrick, what difference does head gasket thickness make? Would I make more or less with cometic gaskets? I'm using the MLS .060s right now.
Congrats dude!
Dam this cam sounds bad ***. I'm getting ready to purchase a set of 205's.
I may have to get this cam. But I would like to spray it. What kinda lsa would I need?
Dam this cam sounds bad ***. I'm getting ready to purchase a set of 205's.
I may have to get this cam. But I would like to spray it. What kinda lsa would I need?