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Old 09-21-2006, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rubadubdub
Was the dyno on Mount Arvon during a tropical depression cause the barometer on 4/18/06 in the Detroit area never went below 30.00

Mmmm I just love fudge.
I am glad you love fudge, but the conditions in Wixom about 60 miles from Downtown Detroit where you got barometer reading from were exactly what the sheet says they were. I told you the night was cool, dry with a light breeze. Perfect conditions to put your car on a dyno. Maybe you check the barometer reading for that date for Wixom, MI ok.
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there are plenty of videos on the net of his car running the new Z06 and a SS that is pretty damn fast. there is no need to doubt this. doug im sure LG has your dyno on file, email them and ask them to pull it and email it back to you. i definitely decided to wait and get the LG Pro long tubes. my 403 is going to be completed using the stock exhaust system for now. im expexting 470-480 once the headers go on ill probably have one rare dyno of how much headers really affect final numbers on a 403 build, expecting over 500.
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Originally Posted by Blown04Z06
there are plenty of videos on the net of his car running the new Z06 and a SS that is pretty damn fast. there is no need to doubt this. doug im sure LG has your dyno on file, email them and ask them to pull it and email it back to you. i definitely decided to wait and get the LG Pro long tubes. my 403 is going to be completed using the stock exhaust system for now. im expexting 470-480 once the headers go on ill probably have one rare dyno of how much headers really affect final numbers on a 403 build, expecting over 500.
Thanks bro, and I am glad you remember the videos. Too bad I wasn't able to drive her as quick as she is capable of going. I certainly can drive fast when I have plenty of traction though. I have asked LG to pull my graph and still haven't gotten it. I think it may have been lost. Who knows. As I stated before the SAE numbers were 460/420. STD with perfect conditions 473/431. Again sorry for the confusion. Thanks a lot blown04ZO6, shoot me a pm and stay in touch. Later
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I kinda remember those videos too.
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Originally Posted by WHPLASH
I kinda remember those videos too.
Yeah I remember getting left at the line on 2 occasions LOL. Damn that camaro gets out of the hole quick!!
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
I am glad you love fudge, but the conditions in Wixom about 60 miles from Downtown Detroit where you got barometer reading from were exactly what the sheet says they were. I told you the night was cool, dry with a light breeze. Perfect conditions to put your car on a dyno. Maybe you check the barometer reading for that date for Wixom, MI ok.
High barometer in Wixom on 4/18/06 was 30.10 and low was 30.01. Sorry man, you got a good dyno reading because of improper input of the barometer that day on the dyno. That's OK though, you're STILL making big power.

Here's the weather report: http://www.wunderground.com/history/...q_statename=NA
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
High barometer in Wixom on 4/18/06 was 30.10 and low was 30.01. Sorry man, you got a good dyno reading because of improper input of the barometer that day on the dyno. That's OK though, you're STILL making big power.

Here's the weather report: http://www.wunderground.com/history/...q_statename=NA
Maybe I should go choke Donnie. How was the dyno reading 17% for humidity in the shop, the Monster A/c unit couldn't have pulled that much humidity out of the air. Anyways thanks for clearing it up. I guess SAE numbers take into account for more conditions.
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The dyno police need to chill out and relax.

Nice numbers. Got any pics of your ride?
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Thats why I always ask what trap speed does the car do at the track. You can BS a dyno but you can't BS the track. With those BS weather figures someone inputed the dyno output was probably 6-9% high which may not sound like much but it takes a car that reads stout numbers and says it merely average which the track numbers would agree with.
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Originally Posted by Phil99vette
Thats why I always ask what trap speed does the car do at the track. You can BS a dyno but you can't BS the track. With those BS weather figures someone inputed the dyno output was probably 6-9% high which may not sound like much but it takes a car that reads stout numbers and says it merely average which the track numbers would agree with.
I was trapping 119.9 so 120 all night.
I couldn't hook for **** my drag radials are still to new need some passes on them whole diff car to me on the strip i have to find out were it wants to launch at, best time was 11.71 with a 1.8 60' Still has stock suspention from the factory never been changed. I think this car wants to be shifted at 6400 too. I was off the rev limiter all night. Im kind of hoped it would trap higher but I think im going to do some more in depth tunning to it. time will tell
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Originally Posted by Louie83
The dyno police need to chill out and relax.

Nice numbers. Got any pics of your ride?
Yes I have a couple of pics of my car, you can see them on www.spdkilz.com in the guests cars section. I am listed as Doug's C5. It's a shot from the side while sitting in front of LG Motorsports, the other pic is of the motor after the shiny red Meziere was installed, and Lou Gigliotti signed the fuel rail cover. The top shot was lined up perfectly, it captured the car in a good angle I think and the name Wilwood on the new brakes showed clearly through the open section on the rim.

I have some other pics after she's freshly waxed. I'll have to get over to my friends cgillies86 (he posts all my pics/vids) and let him post them for me. Thanks for the request.
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Too bad I wasn't able to drive her as quick as she is capable of going. I certainly can drive fast when I have plenty of traction though.
Doug, after being able to lean on my H/C/I on street tires a little since it's been finished I would not even attempt to run Fadi form a dig or 2nd gear roll. I'm surprised you hung in as well as you did those couple times. Take care man.
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Track numbers are nice, but can be misleading if the driver is lacking rowing skills in a manual car. Powershifting, launch, shift points, ect can change the final trap speed a few mph at least.
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Originally Posted by slowride
Track numbers are nice, but can be misleading if the driver is lacking rowing skills in a manual car. Powershifting, launch, shift points, ect can change the final trap speed a few mph at least.
Truth be told. ^


Also your numbers are fudged Allngn C5 cause there's no way the barometer was as low on the dyno unless it was during a tropical depression or on top of a mountain like I said. 28.93? No way. Not saying the car doesn't make power cause it does. Just saying it don't make the power you think it does.
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PS: I've seen with my own eyes an AFR/G5X3 450 RWHP 3750 lb M6 Camaro run neck in neck with a A.S./GT2-3 380 RWHP 3500 lb A4 Camaro from 40-140. These 2 cars put a whopping 3 cars on my lid/filter/flowmaster 319 RWHP 3600 lb M6 Camaro during that same top end run sooooo go figure that one out.
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Originally Posted by Rubadubdub
Truth be told. ^


Also your numbers are fudged Allngn C5 cause there's no way the barometer was as low on the dyno unless it was during a tropical depression or on top of a mountain like I said. 28.93? No way. Not saying the car doesn't make power cause it does. Just saying it don't make the power you think it does.

Hey bro, I agree. I was exchanging pm's with another member and I see what you are saying. Donnie must've put the wrong numbers in, and my hp/tq numbers were off.

I can guarantee you this, the numbers at LG were as I said earlier, 460/420 to the wheels. I was quite a bit disappointed with that but oh well some cars make more power then others. I wish now that I had stayed cam only with stock heads. I made a mistake and thought my numbers at Walsh motorsports were SAE, I guess I overlooked the STD that was staring me in the face. I never tried to misrepresent my car, if I was I wouldn't have had Chris post my graph. Thanks for pointing out STD is not SAE. So real SAE numbers in 98 degree heat with high humidity were 460/420 to the wheels.

End of discussion.
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
I can guarantee you this, the numbers at LG were as I said earlier, 460/420 to the wheels. I was quite a bit disappointed with that but oh well some cars make more power then others.
Your being too hard on youself and your car. 460/420 is awsome power, and the correction factor has a hard time with high heat and humidity. Comparing dynos from other places is not a valid comparison either. I'm sure you car rolls out, enjoy it. Not many 346 cars make alot more power than you do.

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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Hey bro, I agree. I was exchanging pm's with another member and I see what you are saying. Donnie must've put the wrong numbers in, and my hp/tq numbers were off.

I can guarantee you this, the numbers at LG were as I said earlier, 460/420 to the wheels. I was quite a bit disappointed with that but oh well some cars make more power then others. I wish now that I had stayed cam only with stock heads. I made a mistake and thought my numbers at Walsh motorsports were SAE, I guess I overlooked the STD that was staring me in the face. I never tried to misrepresent my car, if I was I wouldn't have had Chris post my graph. Thanks for pointing out STD is not SAE. So real SAE numbers in 98 degree heat with high humidity were 460/420 to the wheels.

End of discussion.

YES SIR. lol
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Originally Posted by Louie83
The dyno police need to chill out and relax.

Nice numbers. Got any pics of your ride?
For real, why is everyone all on his nutz arguing over how much power he made?? Let his nutz go already.
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Cause this was the dyno section, not the can I see a pretty pic of your car section, that's why.



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