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Old 08-26-2007, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5
Hey bro, I haven't heard from you in a long time. I sent you a PM. CONGRATS on all the horsepower your new engine made. We didn't get to run last year, and I kept missing you at the 50's McDonalds. I still owe you a ride. By the sounds of the power you are making I can't wait to go for a ride. Actually a bit afraid to run you. Your new motor sounds like a beast. Don't worry about that 10 bolt, she'll last until you race from a dig. 474 rwtq is a lot of grunt. So get ahold of me, I got the itch to run bro.
dont be afraid to run me doug, your car is lighter and done by LG motorsports, my **** is heavy and thrown together in my garage

ya, my stock 10 bolt is going to hate me, 3.42 gear isnt helping out to much either, but we can run em one day
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We shall see.
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maybe u should look into the new kooks 2" headers
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
maybe u should look into the new kooks 2" headers
ya, i was thinking they would be overkill, but im sure they will be perfect with a big shot once i spray it
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Justin, great results, especially considering all the power mods you still have left to do.

Larger headers (big gains here)
Ported intake manifold (another biggie)
UD Pulley
Larger MAF or no MAF
Electric water pump
Shaft mounted rockers

The fact that you exceeded 500 rwhp so easily speaks volumes of how well the L92 heads work. How's the driveability of the car right now? Can't wait to hear about the power once you put the big shot of spray on it.

once u get all that u'll be pushing some serious hp + the nitrous even more
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Originally Posted by JDP
ya, i was thinking they would be overkill, but im sure they will be perfect with a big shot once i spray it

i did some research about them but for my 346 heads/cam/nitrous setup they are still on the big side ill probably stick with my 1 7/8's
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
once u get all that u'll be pushing some serious hp + the nitrous even more
would be a fast car if my dumbass got rid of my built t-56 and put a th400 in it, but im addicted to the stick shift cars
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hey man Iam glad your car is done.nice work,ps sounds mean as hell too.
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Congrats man great numbers and alot of things left on the table.
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While I am certainly the last person here who should question Patrick's cam spec for you, and he's helped me a ton too.. I think you would make much better numbers closing the intake valve sooner to avoid reversion and advance the ICL since the L92's runner CC is so large and air velocity is low. Yes, the L92's are very exhaust weak compared to the intake side, but instead of increasing duration for an earlier EVO, you are already advancing the ICL which with the same cam will make the EVO earlier as well (less gas pumping loss since you need more flow out of a smaller hole per say, it will take more craskshaft degrees to accomplish). I'd try a cam with a smaller exhaust lobe and a lot more advance. Something along the lines of a 240/246 112+5 or 6. I think it would work better than a large split. But I also don't know what goals you had in mind for your car, which could influence the cam choice. Patrick's knowledge is indespensable on this site, I just look at the L92 head a bit different. I would take the existing cam and advance it another 4 degrees if I couldn't swap the cam out. I'm not trying to insult anyone, I'm just offering my view.
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Originally Posted by Asmodeus
While I am certainly the last person here who should question Patrick's cam spec for you, and he's helped me a ton too.. I think you would make much better numbers closing the intake valve sooner to avoid reversion and advance the ICL since the L92's runner CC is so large and air velocity is low. Yes, the L92's are very exhaust weak compared to the intake side, but instead of increasing duration for an earlier EVO, you are already advancing the ICL which with the same cam will make the EVO earlier as well (less gas pumping loss since you need more flow out of a smaller hole per say, it will take more craskshaft degrees to accomplish). I'd try a cam with a smaller exhaust lobe and a lot more advance. Something along the lines of a 240/246 112+5 or 6. I think it would work better than a large split. But I also don't know what goals you had in mind for your car, which could influence the cam choice. Patrick's knowledge is indespensable on this site, I just look at the L92 head a bit different. I would take the existing cam and advance it another 4 degrees if I couldn't swap the cam out. I'm not trying to insult anyone, I'm just offering my view.
What you're not seeing is that this is not an NA cam. If it was, the valve events would be different, especially on the exhaust. This cam is a nitrous cam designed for a 300 shot. You don't have all the information so you can't be expected to see what's on the horizon.
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Originally Posted by JDP
would be a fast car if my dumbass got rid of my built t-56 and put a th400 in it, but im addicted to the stick shift cars

im with u i love a 6 speed but it does have its limitations
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What kind of compression ratio are you running?? With the .661 exhaust lift I'm sure he's running a lower compression motor or the pistons needed to by fly cut to clear that kind of exhaust lift.. just asking..

That is a GREAT NOS CAM.. damn...
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Originally Posted by HUGGER ORANGE SS
What kind of compression ratio are you running?? With the .661 exhaust lift I'm sure he's running a lower compression motor or the pistons needed to by fly cut to clear that kind of exhaust lift.. just asking..

That is a GREAT NOS CAM.. damn...
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and ya, cam is meant for a pretty hefty shot
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That's a lot of lift...

Nice numbers.
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
What you're not seeing is that this is not an NA cam. If it was, the valve events would be different, especially on the exhaust. This cam is a nitrous cam designed for a 300 shot. You don't have all the information so you can't be expected to see what's on the horizon.
I didn't realize this was a nitrous cam. You cam should be worth 70+hp over the one I suggested when it's on the jug.

I was wrong and I didn't have the all the info.. and I certainly wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers.

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Rode in it last night. Car is NASTY. Congrats Justin. It's alllllllllllll about the heads.


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I didn't gain any peak hp going from 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 on my 408. it did pull about 500 more RPM though.
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Originally Posted by 383ss
I didn't gain any peak hp going from 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 on my 408. it did pull about 500 more RPM though.
That's not uncommon with cathedral port heads, but the larger headers seem to really wake up the L92 heads.
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Originally Posted by Chad@LivernoisMotors
Rode in it last night. Car is NASTY. Congrats Justin. It's alllllllllllll about the heads.


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oh, its not about the tuner at all? just the heads you sold to me?

car feels **** wide open, sounds **** too, need to get some soundclips up.


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