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Old 02-05-2008, 05:46 PM
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the larger cam is a 257/266 on a 110 the smaller cam is a G5X3 on a 112. We are going to try 1 more new grind to see what happens. The red graph is the smaller cam. Blue is the monster cam.
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It would be interesting to see a dyno run down to 2k or 2.5k RPM. Before I built my motor I spent about a week monitoring on the tach how I actually drove the car and tried to maximize performance in the RPM range where I spend most of my time.

On a street car I'd choose a big bump in under the curve torque in exchange for a big 5k+ HP number - But that's just me.
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The red graph would of made more power if the timing didn't drop. -as seen on the graph. I would think neither of those Cams are good for L92 heads by what I've been seeing.
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Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
the larger cam is a 257/266 on a 110 the smaller cam is a G5X3 on a 112. We are going to try 1 more new grind to see what happens.
let me guess 24X/25X @.050 on a 114 range on new grind?
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Originally Posted by JPH
let me guess 24X/25X @.050 on a 114 range on new grind?


No somewhere in the 23x/24x on a 112.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
The red graph would of made more power if the timing didn't drop. -as seen on the graph. I would think neither of those Cams are good for L92 heads by what I've been seeing.


There was about 15 minutes spent on this tune it was just for r & d only. But honestly we did not think it would put those numbers down. We are going to try 1 more and if it does not work this will be the cam I run. If the next cam is what I think it is we are going to run with that one. Give me about a week or 2 to get those figures to you guys.
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That is some very interesting and helpful information. Question: Do you have any idea why the blue hp graph goes flat at 6000 rpms? With such a big cam I would not expect that.
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Did this solve your break up problem down low?
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Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
There was about 15 minutes spent on this tune it was just for r & d only. But honestly we did not think it would put those numbers down. We are going to try 1 more and if it does not work this will be the cam I run. If the next cam is what I think it is we are going to run with that one. Give me about a week or 2 to get those figures to you guys.
I understand.We test Cams alot and find some wierd stuff out. I would like to see what your motor will do with a smaller Cam.I would think the head flow will really help a small cam setup with a close peak power.
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Originally Posted by DBN
That is some very interesting and helpful information. Question: Do you have any idea why the blue hp graph goes flat at 6000 rpms? With such a big cam I would not expect that.

It runs out of intake. The L76 is only good till about 6200. Waiting for FAST to get something on the market.
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Originally Posted by Alvin@pcmforless.com
Did this solve your break up problem down low?


Sure did.
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Did you guys check cam timing??
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
I understand.We test Cams alot and find some wierd stuff out. I would like to see what your motor will do with a smaller Cam.I would think the head flow will really help a small cam setup with a close peak power.

The next cam will be a little larger than the smaller cam in the car as of now. We feel we can get the low and midrange even better along with some more top end and a little more chop at idle.
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Originally Posted by Alvin@pcmforless.com
Did you guys check cam timing??

No. But it was not degreed 4 advanced as it was supposed to be. Might of had the breaking up even lower in the rpm range which might have made it more driveable.
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I like the low end torque of the little cam but you may have more left in it with the bigger cam and a better intake. Would be interested in those results too.
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We did one for a customer here with a small cam. They are engine dyno #'s, but it did make great torque.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/847804-427-l92-l76.html
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Originally Posted by 03 BUSA
No somewhere in the 23x/24x on a 112.
Cool. 236/242 is what I might try. Keep ous updated on what happens.
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Originally Posted by JPH
Cool. 236/242 is what I might try. Keep ous updated on what happens.
The G5X3 that he has in there now is 234/242 112LSA +4. I'm not sure if your recommendation is going to make a big enough difference.
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Ive got one in the works for him

Nick at Williams Performance is a fantastic tuner, one of the best in the country. It will be a middle of the road cam, with some good midrange power.

450 from the punch with the smaller cam isnt bad at all
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What are the lifts of those cams..? What rocker arm ratios??


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