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Old 04-21-2008, 03:59 PM
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Man,I thought I had the inside info on that cam.I was there when
you brought your car in.Got to see the before dyno pulls.Very nice.
Now you need to sell me those heads and put on some AFR's
Looking for some #243's do you know of any.
Brian
Old 04-21-2008, 04:25 PM
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great results! my torquer v3 and lts made 426 hp 397 torque on a 04 Z! IT PULLS LIKE A FREIGHT TRAIN!
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What did you replace the stock valve springs with?
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Very nice results.
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Originally Posted by B02SS
Man,I thought I had the inside info on that cam.I was there when
you brought your car in.Got to see the before dyno pulls.Very nice.
Now you need to sell me those heads and put on some AFR's
Looking for some #243's do you know of any.
Brian
That was you with the Camaro on Thursday? Cool!

BTW, the springs used were Patriot Gold Duals with 7.4" pushrods. Everything else is stock LS6 stuff.
Old 04-21-2008, 09:31 PM
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[QUOTE=Ryan L;9206392]That was you with the Camaro on Thursday? Cool!

Yup.You have a sweet ride.Like to hear it now.
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That's a great cam!

What bolt-ons do you have?
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Which brand of LTs you have buddy ?!

peace
Old 04-22-2008, 01:04 AM
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Nice results. I have the same cam in my garage waiting for me to get up the nerve to install it myself.
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Gotta love the smaller cams as when they are done properly they work very well and can make power like the upper 220 and lower 230 cams. Heck sometimes more

Ryan, thanks for all the kind words and glad it worked out as well as it did. Very nice package. Brian had the inside scoop on the cam since he was there and everyone probably thought he was crazy for saying 224/230

Like Patrick mentioned, it seems this cam area (224/230) hits a spot with the LSx 346 & 366 engines. I have been using the XER version on a 114 for a year and a half on a lot of NA, forced induction and even nitrous cars. Sometimes on a 112-113 for the M6 guys if they want more chop, 114 for the A4 folks or nitrous and even 115-116 for the FI guys. I would never say there is a one size fits all cam, but this if pretty close and the XFI lobes seem to work well also.

Best to all

Brian, I did call the warranty company yesterday and we are ready to set up moving forward. Talk to you soon.

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Old 04-22-2008, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by bad95killer
Which brand of LTs you have buddy ?!
SSAC Headers, which used to be known as the 'ebay' headers when they came out. IMO, they are a great budget header since they are cheap and alot of people have had good luck with them. They are not really known as the biggest header power gainers, but my research shows that SSAC is still within 5 hp of most of the other popular brands (15-20rwhp gain vs. 20-25rwhp).

My other mods include catless x-pipe, Borla Stingers catback, Blackwing intake, and an underdrive crank pulley. Besides the LTs, most of the mods are non-power gainers, but I posted them for reference.
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Nice numbers, I'm a big fan of the 22x/23x range of cams. I may have one spec'd to run well on stock heads plus 100 shot.
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I just picked up a LS2 shortblock with h-beams and Mahles. Patrick spec'd this same cam for me, but will be with a 111 LS. Will be getting some TEA Stage 2 LS6 heads for it also soon.
Should be a blast in a 2200lb sandrail.
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results like this make me wonder, why spend the extra money on ported heads?? decisions decisions
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Originally Posted by LS1TORQ
results like this make me wonder, why spend the extra money on ported heads?? decisions decisions
MO' POWA' !!!
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Wow...I was originally looking at something like a 224/224 or 224/228 to keep stock driveability but these results are downright ridiculous! So a decent tune can have this pretty driveable (like stock)?
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Originally Posted by Red99TA
Wow...I was originally looking at something like a 224/224 or 224/228 to keep stock driveability but these results are downright ridiculous! So a decent tune can have this pretty driveable (like stock)?
Maybe Mike can chime in, but I don't think this cam should be any harder to tune than something like a TR228 or TR230. XER lobes still seem to be the norm, but hopefully these recent rash of awesome Patrick G style cam results will make these lower duration w/ XFI lobes catch on alot more.
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Does your dyno chart happen to go any lower than 4000RPM? I need to see the lower end of the curve to see how much tq between 2500 and 4000, preferably.
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so the xfi lobes open and close the valves faster than xer? are they harder on valve springs?
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
Does your dyno chart happen to go any lower than 4000RPM? I need to see the lower end of the curve to see how much tq between 2500 and 4000, preferably.
My actual graph is not uploaded yet, but it starts at 2.5k RPM. I believe both cams made the same power up to 2.5k RPM, but then XFI cam starts breaking away proportionately. It made 30-40 rwhp soon thereafter and peaked at about 55 rwhp more. The new curve essentially just shifted vertical 30-50 HP, keeping the torque curve flat. No peaky stuff here.

And to answer "52172", yes the lobes will be harder on the valve springs versus an XER since they have a faster ramp and higher lift. Patriot Golds should do the trick. Alot of guys try to get more power by spec'ing larger durations, but I wanted to minimize tuning issues and keep drivability as stock as possible so I went with the larger lift and 'relatively' wide LSA instead. I'm not cam or motor building guru, but this cam seems to work perfectly for my combo and what my goals happened to be.


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