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03-05-2009, 10:38 AM
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All put together, running. Lopes nice, and sounds good..he just needs to set his timing better. He bought the car with everything on it, plus the novi 1000, but it ran like ****. He took the novi off, and re did some of the timing, and it runs better, now he just needs to fine tune everything.
03-05-2009, 10:45 AM
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If the motor is already together just leave it alone. Put the Novi back on and take it somewhere and have the car dyno tuned. After that he should just enjoy the car and start building his 351 on the side. If he wants any tips or advice on the 351 build shoot me a PM (I don't check this part of the boards alot) and I'll put him on the right track. Also if he has a stock T5 tell him to watch out for 3rd gear.
03-05-2009, 11:10 AM
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302 parts will give you 302 results, so if he's planning a 351 he should stick w/ what he's got and build a 351 based setup on the side.
either throw the novi 1k back on or spray it and start something else w/ a good set of heads and custom cam.
either throw the novi 1k back on or spray it and start something else w/ a good set of heads and custom cam.
03-05-2009, 01:21 PM
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...I still don't understand why a certain someone's undynoed and cracked out 331 is constantly referered to as the 302 that God built. It's totallly misleading and pointless. I mean really, you seem cool/helpful, but you keep posting overinflated BS everywhere. Like your 'nuts' combo for your old actual 302 that did 328rwhp, but it was on an uncorrected dynojet...then you got into the argument dynos are worthless/lies after people started to nit-pick. Just let things be. ****, it's like the 5.0 can never play second fiddle to anything.
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Get the fuel up to par with the blower, make sure the injectors are cal'd to the MAS, set the base timing around 10btdc, put the blower back on and go have it tuned. That will tell you excatly whats wrong and what is getting fixed. If there is something not working right, its going to show up on a log. 90% of this issue sounds like a tune, but don't forget the basics of fuel, timing, and vaccum leaks.
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Get the fuel up to par with the blower, make sure the injectors are cal'd to the MAS, set the base timing around 10btdc, put the blower back on and go have it tuned. That will tell you excatly whats wrong and what is getting fixed. If there is something not working right, its going to show up on a log. 90% of this issue sounds like a tune, but don't forget the basics of fuel, timing, and vaccum leaks.
03-05-2009, 02:11 PM
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...I still don't understand why a certain someone's undynoed and cracked out 331 is constantly referered to as the 302 that God built. It's totallly misleading and pointless. I mean really, you seem cool/helpful, but you keep posting overinflated BS everywhere. Like your 'nuts' combo for your old actual 302 that did 328rwhp, but it was on an uncorrected dynojet...then you got into the argument dynos are worthless/lies after people started to nit-pick. Just let things be. ****, it's like the 5.0 can never play second fiddle to anything.
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Wipe the tears away, it will be ok. Dynos are pointless...I much rather talk track times instead. 
And here is the thread you are talking about http://forums.stangnet.com/777570-un...whp-combo.html . I do not see arguing or anything such as that. Sounds to me like someone has a bad case of the "cry baby syndrome".
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03-05-2009, 03:13 PM
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I told him to put the blower back on....he wants to go N/A. Don't get me wrong, N/A is fun and all...but power is power, no matter how it is made. Oh well. Tips for building his 302? Or just leave it be, have fun with it, and build the 351? How much would a decent 351 run? And that novi, how much could he sell it for?
03-05-2009, 09:44 PM
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03-05-2009, 10:00 PM
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Leave it be and build the 351. There is really no point in putting anything into a 302 IMO unless its an aftermarket block. I did it but I started out with the idea of a 306 with my old parts and it snowballed on me from there. It doesn't cost that much to build a shortblock and since he has a car to drive he can do it as he can afford it. No idea on how much he could sell the Novi for, maybe someone else can give some help there. He can go with a 30 over 351 or go with a stroker. If he can find an early model block its been said those can take upwards of 900rwhp. I personally have never seen a 351 block crack like a 302 one will but a non late model 351 block will handle 650rwhp. I say he builds a nice compression 351 and throw some juice at it. Atleast that is my plan....
03-06-2009, 01:08 PM
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The heads on my 302 flow 315/236 @ 600 lift. And there are heads MUCH bigger than mine out there for a SBF.
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03-06-2009, 01:41 PM
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351 also has larger headbolts stock; good for boost(302 can be machined to accept them)
