SiL3NtXWS6

iTrader: (17)

My buddy claims his M3 will beat me on a road course and that the only thing I have the advantage on are the straights. He says his car weighs a lot less, and it will out handle me because of 50/50 weight distribution.

I am an experienced road course driver. He is not.

04 C5 Z06
Lowered
Good rubber
Tunnel plate
Poly bushings all the way around
Baer/Hawk brake components
Full Exhaust
Vortech T-Trim


2009 BMW M3
Stock


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Sarge_13

iTrader: (1)

Your car would rape him. The M3 is a great stock car for attacking a road course but your modded Z06 would kill him.

SiL3NtXWS6

iTrader: (17)

What about stock vs stock?

Sarge_13

iTrader: (1)

I'd give the nod to the Z06 there as well. The M3 has peak power, but no power under the curve. If you have a very good driver in the M3 it would be really close.

JD_AMG

Your buddy is an idiot.
Your car also has perfect 50/50 weight distribution, and has a huge weight advantage. Given the same driver in both stock cars the C5 Z06 would walk away from the M3...

David_viny

+1

The Corvette is a true sports car. The M3, at least the 4th generation he has, is like a sporty every day car. There great for there category, but not great competition for a sports car. There older ones, especially the CSL's are the good handling ones.

And stock for stock the c5 z06 is 589lbs lighter LOL. The z06 is 3,115 lbs and the M3 is 3,704 lbs(a little more if its a sedan, over 4,000lbs if its a convertible).

AND the C5 z06 did the Nürburgring (Huge awesome track in Germany) 5 seconds faster then the M3.

*edit* Z06 is 9 sec faster not 5

fccs

iTrader: (26)

Wow is that a joke? A stock fbody is faster then a m3, ive raced my buddies 2000 bmw m3 stock for stock so I can attest to that!

SiL3NtXWS6

iTrader: (17)

This dude is serious

David_viny

Ehhh hes in Denial then. He probably knows the truth, just cant admit it.

fccs

iTrader: (26)

You know what, I just noticed its a 2009 m3, not a 1999 LOL. Ok well a fbody probably wouldnt win stock for stock but your c5z06 should easily. You make around the same power as them stock but your much more aerodynamic and built for speeding. If that was a 99 it wouldnt even be a match obviously, but a 2009 should be interesting. you WILL still win though, probably by 2cars or more as a guarantee

SiL3NtXWS6

iTrader: (17)

with my t-trim i hope to drag his *** pretty good...

integraxtc

iTrader: (11)

is this for the vs the 2009 m3?

If so, the c5 z06, is a pretty damn impressive car. More so, than I thought (or had given it credit for). It's a stalwart.

David_viny

Well at least according to the chart on Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordsch...test_lap_times

Shows the BMW M3 E92 (2007-present) at 8:05, C5 Z06 at 7:56. Guess I messed up the math, the Z06 is 9 sec faster, not 5

KFC_Or_Bust

iTrader: (5)

LOL.

People like the OP's buddy are one of my reasons for living. I had a friend like this at one time, pretty much the only reason for keeping him around was to hear (and laugh) at the rediculous **** he'd spew out on a daily basis. He made a bold statement that the, then new, C6 Vette's weighed so much more than his 89 Caprice and because it had the 9C1 police package he'd keep up with one no problem.

Anyways, with your tool friend, I say race him on the track, loser pays the others track fee for the day. Get it on film too, his excuses would be epic.

SiL3NtXWS6

iTrader: (17)

And his response:

Alexander V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IWS9qr1U-0
Thought you might like this video. And.. i still have not come up with a response to your comment haha, but it shouldn't be too hard to find.

And his response:

Alexander V
Danny, my friend, you can't compare the i6 M3 to the 2009 V8!! Those times are for the 2003 bmw m3 3.0L i6, which has 360hp compared to 420 on the 09 model. Now... first, let me point out the fact that the m3 is capable of producing 105bhp/L compared to 67bhp/L that the z06 puts out. When taking into account weight, the m3 produces slightly less per klb: 115bhp/klb compared to 123bhp/klb. BUT... they have taken basically everything out of the corvette to get the weight down to what it is. The M3 is a luxury sport sedan whereas the z06 is purely a sports car. If you took out all the soundproofing, back seats, etc. out of the m3 and stripped it down to it's essentials (which is essentially what chevrolet did), i guarantee you the m3 would be running circles around the z06 . Oh.. and the z06 does not have perfect 50:50, its 51:49 haha. Oh and btw... 2009 m3 is faster on the track, just hard to find track times. Check that site.
http://www.fastestlaps.com/index.php?page_id=compare

SiL3NtXWS6

iTrader: (17)

Yes, he tried to post a drifting video of a c6z vs a M3 on a wet donut. lolz

PNYKLR-TA

iTrader: (1)

wow your friend is a make-up bag. . . not a tool bag. tool bags understand cars but are just stupid . . . make-up bags are pretty boys like your friend.

JD_AMG

I've got a better response for you.

No, those times are for the 2009 E92 M3, the 360hp E46 M3 ran significantly slower (8:22 slower still than a Z51 C5, which lapped 8:18 by SportAuto).

First let me point out that hp/l is completely and utterly irrelevant when comparing engines. Displacement does not represent any important real world figures such as weight or physical size, and peak hp shows very little about how the car accelerates. If you pull your head out of your *** you will find that the "inefficient" LS6 is not only lighter, but physically smaller, and cheaper than BMW's 4L V8. So which would you rather have, the lighter smaller cheaper engine with near as much power(and a way better torque curve), or the heavier, bulkier more expensive one you have to rev to the moon to get moving?
Unless you can come up with some logical argument to defend hp/l with real world figures, so far Z06 -1; E92 -0.

CraZee ZO6

I own both cars. 2009 M3 dct tranny. One hell of a car but so is the c5z. STOCK VS STOCK the c5z would get it at the road coarse. Zo6 weighs less 3100 vs 3600. Similar power but z also has better grip 1.01G to .9something

mulalleybs

Your friend is an idiot. Just like alot of mine. Funny that its an m3 though because one of my co workers thinks his m3 is faster than my z06 aswell. "blah blah my car weights less and has almost the same amount of power" as he was saying this i was thinking there is no way in hell his car weighs less than 3100 lbs being a 4 door luxury car. I look it up and its over 3700 lbs, ofcourse i was right.. Anyway now that i put a supercharger and some other stuff on my car my friends try to argue with me that lambo's and gsx-r 750s would smoke my car blah blah this blah blah. Even funnier, while i type this a friend was saying m3s are wicked fast and would beat my car on any track with curves. Someone else from work said..lmao...that their mini cooper would take my car on a track. What my friends don't realize and what they don't do is that i do extensive amounts of research when im bored w/nothing to do at work so as to not spit out stupid bullshit that they quite frequently do.