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Old 06-03-2009 | 01:01 AM
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So I drive an M6 2001 WS6 and was wandering what mods can I do that are not huge to hang with an 03-04 cobra?

My mods are in my sig btw...
Old 06-03-2009 | 01:04 AM
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ive beat an 03-04 cobra and all i have is headers and your mod list
Old 06-03-2009 | 01:13 AM
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get rid of the flowmaster cat back and get something like a hooker borla magna flow etc long tube headers and gears... ls6 or fast intake with a tb and some spray (150 would be nice). This is if the cobra is pullied which almost all of them are, at least the ones who will race you. a cam wouldnt hurt you either.
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boltons=not huge,and you wont hang with a pullied cobra.a decent pullied cobra will trap 117mph full weight.unless your ws6 weighs 3300lbs with full boltons you can hang.

so if you want to hang with a pullied cobra your gonna need a cam.just try to get your ws6 to hit atleast a 115mph in the 1/4
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Originally Posted by fly pantera
boltons=not huge,and you wont hang with a pullied cobra.a decent pullied cobra will trap 117mph full weight.unless your ws6 weighs 3300lbs with full boltons you can hang.

so if you want to hang with a pullied cobra your gonna need a cam.just try to get your ws6 to hit atleast a 115mph in the 1/4
117 with a pulley thats junk. my car traped 124 when i was a 2.8 upper only with full weight.
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Originally Posted by Koastie57
Whats it take to be on the 04' cobra level?
An '03 Cobra.
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124mph with a 2.8 pulley at full weight.you must be the **** on svtperformance.com
you must be a great driver,with a very,very stout car,weigh 140lbs,raced in 50* weather,and let your car cool way down.

where im from the average pulley cobra will trap under 120 mph.

whats the facts on your car.

470rwhp/3,800lb raceweight and trap a 124?
Old 06-03-2009 | 11:53 PM
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I beat a '03 cobra when i was bone stock, also held off a pullied cobra until 95ish. Like i said in the other thread, depends on driver.

I would get within 10whp of one and you should be faster based on weight.
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Cam, headers thats it.. but i was with blake (2000camaro2000) and we pulled that cobra but a car to a car in a half. he had a pully of some sort and a full exhaust. SO it can be done

cobras like that tho all you gotta do it ask them there HP#s subtract 100 and if your in that range you can hang with em
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Originally Posted by Koastie57
So I drive an M6 2001 WS6 and was wandering what mods can I do that are not huge to hang with an 03-04 cobra?

My mods are in my sig btw...
Driver mod...
I've beaten a lot of harder hitting cars than mine simply because I knew my car better than they knew thiers. I push my car as hard I can every time. The same drive train built in the same model car with the same tuning almost invariably produces different results. This means that, stock or fully modded, you are going to have to learn your car, where and when it pulls hardest, the rpm band where it's best power is made, and how to quickly bring that to bear against your opponent. Each time you add mods to your ride, you are going to have to relearn the car.
The exhaust, cam, and heads are where the most bang for your buck reside... short of more cubic inches and more extreme measures. Even then, a lot of guys have trouble putting all that power to the ground.
Those Cobras are hard to beat because, for the most part, they are a well thought out performance package off the showroom floor. They are designed to put every bit of power the do make to the ground. I admire them for that. The traction control system in our cars doesn't do much for us but stave off the eventual shelling out of the enemic 7.5" ring gear setup.
The nitrous is a good cheap power adder for racing. But it will change the technique you use racing your car too.
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Originally Posted by R W B
I beat a '03 cobra when i was bone stock, also held off a pullied cobra until 95ish. Like i said in the other thread, depends on driver.

I would get within 10whp of one and you should be faster based on weight.
cobras weigh close to 500 pounds more than 98 to 02 camaros if im not mistaken. not sure what wieght diference is between ws6 and cobra. mabye its a little less im not sure either way thats more along the lines of 40 to 50 hp diference. it also depends on the race. when i raced the cobra we were on the highway and we raced from 70. in my opinion they just dont pull as hard on top, from a dig if they hook they scream.

anyways thats my 2 cents
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A stock Cobra? All you need is intake and exhaust stuff. Lid, headers, good catback or cutout and you should be good to go.

If the Cobra gets bolt-ons and a pulley/pullies, you'll need all the bolt-ons, gears and a healthy cam.

If the Cobra adds a ported blower, look for some quality heads for your combo, or a small shot of nitrous.

And finally, if the Cobra steps up to an aftermarket blower like the Kenne Bell or Whipple, it's time to add some forced induction to yours, or more displacement

And... a litte weight reduction goes a LONG way
Old 06-04-2009 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 2000camaroSS2000
cobras weigh close to 500 pounds more than 98 to 02 camaros if im not mistaken. not sure what wieght diference is between ws6 and cobra. mabye its a little less im not sure either way thats more along the lines of 40 to 50 hp diference. it also depends on the race. when i raced the cobra we were on the highway and we raced from 70. in my opinion they just dont pull as hard on top, from a dig if they hook they scream.

anyways thats my 2 cents
You are mistaken. Cobra's are ~3650.
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Originally Posted by fly pantera
124mph with a 2.8 pulley at full weight.you must be the **** on svtperformance.com
you must be a great driver,with a very,very stout car,weigh 140lbs,raced in 50* weather,and let your car cool way down.

where im from the average pulley cobra will trap under 120 mph.

whats the facts on your car.

470rwhp/3,800lb raceweight and trap a 124?
i weight 170 lbs. the car is rather stout . the temp that day was about 65.
i had about 50 passes on that set up and never once did my car trap below 121. the norm was 122-123
mods at the time were
2.8 upper
92mm idler
k&n fipk2
sctBA3000
Afco dual pass heat exchanger
longtubes
o/r x
catback
275/40/17 Mt Et street radials
Tuned by Dez Racing.
dyno numbers were 465/485
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Here ya go:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1244237724120

No, just kidding. If I where you man I wouldn't worry too much about it. Pretty much no matter what you do, there is going to be a faster Cobra. And no matter what he does, there is going to be a faster F-body. Just make your car as fast as you want and enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
i weight 170 lbs. the car is rather stout . the temp that day was about 65.
i had about 50 passes on that set up and never once did my car trap below 121. the norm was 122-123
mods at the time were
2.8 upper
92mm idler
k&n fipk2
sctBA3000
Afco dual pass heat exchanger
longtubes
o/r x
catback
275/40/17 Mt Et street radials
Tuned by Dez Racing.
dyno numbers were 465/485
What was the DA of that track you went to?

I'm inclined to believe you, just curious

Also, to everyone in this forum, cut it out with the damn cobra threads.

Yes they are faster stock, mod for mod, who gives a ****.
inb4 FORD NEED BLOWAR TO BEAT CHEVY LAWL
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Originally Posted by Gaunt
What was the DA of that track you went to?

I'm inclined to believe you, just curious

Also, to everyone in this forum, cut it out with the damn cobra threads.

Yes they are faster stock, mod for mod, who gives a ****.
inb4 FORD NEED BLOWAR TO BEAT CHEVY LAWL
i dunno what the da was of the 124 run but it was in october at new england dragway and the air was real good. i wanna say it was close to or just below sea level. but the car had also been run on 90 degree days in july and still gone 122
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stout cars for sure. A H/C/N20 fbody with all the bolt ons MIGHT be able to beat a pullied cobra . In all seriousness though, i would say a cam and headers will help you immensely. They are great cars, you definitely have to be careful with them.
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Originally Posted by rk_2000_Z/28
Here ya go:

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/search...=1244237724120

No, just kidding. If I where you man I wouldn't worry too much about it. Pretty much no matter what you do, there is going to be a faster Cobra. And no matter what he does, there is going to be a faster F-body. Just make your car as fast as you want and enjoy it.
I agree. You win some and you lose some. It only gets all serious when pinkslips or cash are on the line. This is an expensive game to play to begin with. Being all serious kinda takes the fun out of it though, huh?
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my car back in the day when i got it had an ms3 cam, wasnt called that back then. i also home ported my stock heads, slp longtubes, catback and slp lid. i ran a 04 cobra with 17psi and got beat by a fender. i also had a passenger to his solo run. my car was also an automatic. i dynoed 420 rwhp to his 480rwhp. those cars are garbage

i ve also seen a BONE STOCK 99 trans am with a 250 shot run a whipple cobra on 25psi and all bolt ons. the cobra still one, but only by a car or so.


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