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Dig racing or Roll racing???

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Old 12-01-2009, 12:13 AM
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You need to clarify the poll with a statement rather the first post.

I would choose roll personally because it's a quicker determination of which car is actually faster/quicker. I don't mind beating the driver but a blown launch usually means a blown race, plus far greater exposure.
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**** canning it from a stop and frying tires to impress the ladies, thats cool....frying the tires while racing not so cool...i like the roll to help get rid of the spin
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If someone wants to dig race me then I say lets go to the track. If i'm on the street with street tires then it should be a roll race. Plus, dig racing = broken parts
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Originally Posted by Z06ME
If someone wants to dig race me then I say lets go to the track. If i'm on the street with street tires then it should be a roll race. Plus, dig racing = broken parts
huh? You launch so hard on street tires that you break things? Then you go to the track (imply you use race rubber) and you're not concerned about breaking things. This doesnt make sense.

All of these posts use lame excuses not to dig, probably just slow cars.
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Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
huh? You launch so hard on street tires that you break things? Then you go to the track (imply you use race rubber) and you're not concerned about breaking things. This doesnt make sense.

All of these posts use lame excuses not to dig, probably just slow cars.
x1000

What is it you guys keep snapping from a dig? Yet to break a thing other than a slipping 2nd gear.
Old 12-01-2009, 10:48 AM
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You need to clarify the poll with a statement rather the first post
Im asking what do ppl on here think is a more of a race.Is racing from a roll more of a test of who has the better car and whos the better driver or is racing from a dig.Seeing how racing from a dig isnt considered real racing by the import crowd i wanted the ppls opinon on here.

**** canning it from a stop and frying tires to impress the ladies, thats cool....frying the tires while racing not so cool...i like the roll to help get rid of the spin
says in your sig you drive a stalled auto car...sounds like you need to buy some tires and make full use of what you got

If someone wants to dig race me then I say lets go to the track. If i'm on the street with street tires then it should be a roll race. Plus, dig racing = broken parts
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yeah i think SSpeedracer called that right.sounds excatly like another excuse those honda guys gave me the other night.that and it made the race more even for the two of us.if i had my ET drags on it still i could see the advantage i would have had.
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Originally Posted by 1994t/a
Im asking what do ppl on here think is a more of a race.Is racing from a roll more of a test of who has the better car and whos the better driver or is racing from a dig.Seeing how racing from a dig isnt considered real racing by the import crowd i wanted the ppls opinon on here.

Digs are racing..


says in your sig you drive a stalled auto car...sounds like you need to buy some tires and make full use of what you got

Not every stall auto car hooks.. Its not just about tires..
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yeah i think SSpeedracer called that right.sounds excatly like another excuse those honda guys gave me the other night.that and it made the race more even for the two of us.if i had my ET drags on it still i could see the advantage i would have had.
They have advantages too... their arent any 22-400 pound fbodys running around. They choose to race an inferior car. Tough. Wrong wheel drive wont hook **** happens.
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Originally Posted by w3s1c0a5t
They have advantages too... their arent any 22-400 pound fbodys running around. They choose to race an inferior car. Tough. Wrong wheel drive wont hook **** happens.
X1000.

Ever go to the import drags and watch FWD cars? Boring as all hell.

Ever watch the test-n-tune where they divide up the imports and domestics (usually because the imports are all 14sec or slower)? Boring AND usually poor drivers too.

Hey, I'm just sayin' based on my observations. Slow reaction times, lousy launches, missed shifts. For the most part it's a disaster. Once in a while an Evo or something else will show up that is dialed in nicely. Not often. And this is in Northern California.....
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Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
huh? You launch so hard on street tires that you break things? Then you go to the track (imply you use race rubber) and you're not concerned about breaking things. This doesnt make sense.

All of these posts use lame excuses not to dig, probably just slow cars.
Actually it makes perfect sense, not excuses!
If ur at the track your most likely gonna hook a lot better than on the street of course...so when you drive a vette or gto with IRS and you're on the street and tires are spinning and trying to hook at the same time that creates WHEEL HOP!!!! Therefore you have way better chance of breaking on the street from a dig then at the track where in most cases you hook and dont get much hop!!!
And whoever said auto's are faster is retarded, there not faster they are just more consistant!
Also going from a roll is more fun sometimes because you go a lot faster and like some of the other guys said it show who's car pulls harder!
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Not every stall auto car hooks.. Its not just about tires..
Its a bolt-on lt1...i think he could hook it with some drag radials just fine.ive had 6 seed bolt on lt1s with drag radials that hooked just fine from 3k dumps.

Ever go to the import drags and watch FWD cars? Boring as all hell.
No...none of the import guys around here go to the trak very often cause they are afraid they are gonna break something.which is good cause i agree they are boring as hell.These k20 swap hatches are supposed to be the badest n/a honda there is espically if its built,which this one was.they said stock k20 swap it should run mid 12s in the 1/4....i dont know for sure im not a import guy.

If ur at the track your most likely gonna hook a lot better than on the street of course...so when you drive a vette or gto with IRS and you're on the street and tires are spinning and trying to hook at the same time that creates WHEEL HOP!!!!
Ive got a leaf spring car it can wheel hop too.ive got traction bars to help prevent that but it doesnt mean it cant or dont do it.i actually bent a leaf spring racing the guy that night....im not bitching about it though.it can be fixed,breaking stuff is part of the game we all play on here.its gonna happen sooner or later.
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Originally Posted by unit213
Well ****...you must be Billy Glidden, a nitrous expert, considering you installed a home built system on a 4 cylinder Escort!

Honestly, WTF is going on around here. It's about time to clean house again and keep 'Tech moving in the right direction.
Unit is back, wtf is going on! Lets see some bans! I nominate DDS the cobalt defender.
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Originally Posted by SIC GTO
And whoever said auto's are faster is retarded, there not faster they are just more consistant!
Also going from a roll is more fun sometimes because you go a lot faster and like some of the other guys said it show who's car pulls harder!
I leave the first part alone... not going to get into a pissing match.

The second part is dumb as ****.. I hate when people say that...

WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MATTER! 0-150.... 40-150... If you want to go faster stay in it you retard.
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For money, digs only. But for fun, trying out new set ups, ect, rolls are fine too. Street tire losers like me (money ) means first couple gears are useless...well I just peddle a **** load, and try to get it to hook. But with the colder weather, you even see more of the stalled auto/sticky tire guys going from low rolls. Who cares though, its for the love of racing. Do as you please, as long as it is safe.
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Roll racing is just whoever has the better power-to-weight ratio, gearing, and who knows what gear to be in at a given MPH.

Dig racing involves the same as previous obviously, but much more emphasis on driver skill and knowledge of the car, as well as which car is better setup suspension-wise.


Both can be organized and happen on the street, rolls are easier to coordinate requiring less prep of the road and less traffic stoppage.




Look at me gettin all scientific on that ***! lol
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Originally Posted by unit213
Well ****...you must be Billy Glidden, a nitrous expert, considering you installed a home built system on a 4 cylinder Escort!

Honestly, WTF is going on around here. It's about time to clean house again and keep 'Tech moving in the right direction.
si senior.

C wut I did thar?

Jay been busy?


Nice to see your status back.
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Originally Posted by chavez885
Unit is back, wtf is going on! Lets see some bans!
Yeah, start off with all the pussies who voted "roll."

Right now there are 20 ******** voting roll. Almost one quarter of those have fewer than 3 total posts. Welcome to the board douchebags!

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Originally Posted by w3s1c0a5t
I leave the first part alone... not going to get into a pissing match.

The second part is dumb as ****.. I hate when people say that...

WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MATTER! 0-150.... 40-150... If you want to go faster stay in it you retard.
I know i dont wanna start anything either im just saying most of the time you get to go faster, when you do a dig people let out or have excuses such as "I didnt hook up" lol so from a roll there shouldnt be as many excuses lol
I voted dig btw!
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Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
huh? You launch so hard on street tires that you break things? Then you go to the track (imply you use race rubber) and you're not concerned about breaking things. This doesnt make sense.

All of these posts use lame excuses not to dig, probably just slow cars.
let me guess, you have an auto? and all that anger comes from who knows where.

and you are the 9 sec champ on the street it must seem to be calling everyone slow.
Originally Posted by w3s1c0a5t
x1000

What is it you guys keep snapping from a dig? Yet to break a thing other than a slipping 2nd gear.
it isnt about breaking something, you can go to a 1/4 track and do digs all day if you want. for some people running from a roll is a sensation you cant find at any track.

people break stuff running from a roll as well.
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Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
Yeah, start off with all the pussies who voted "roll."

Right now there are 20 ******** voting roll. Almost one quarter of those have fewer than 3 total posts. Welcome to the board douchebags!
still with all that anger, so in addition to being a blinding fast dig racer you are also the ls1tech welcoming committee?


Originally Posted by w3s1c0a5t
I leave the first part alone... not going to get into a pissing match.

The second part is dumb as ****.. I hate when people say that...

WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MATTER! 0-150.... 40-150... If you want to go faster stay in it you retard.
0-40 really isnt worth running through for some people since they see those speeds during normal driving.
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
let me guess, you have an auto? and all that anger comes from who knows where.
Originally Posted by liqidvenom
still with all that anger, so in addition to being a blinding fast dig racer you are also the ls1tech welcoming committee?
Anger? You read way too much into a forum thread. Why would I be angered that you think a rolling start is a better performance comparison. If anything, I find it silly. It indicates you are naive.
4000+lbs Blown 500HP M6 3.73 on street tires means I spin forever on a dig. I rarely get the jump. My ratio of roll to dig races is probably 20 to 1. I pick up an impromptu roll race at least twice a month during my commute. Typically ~50 to ~110mph.
My experience is road racing, not drag racing. Given all this I'd be the first to say a dig is a better indicator of a cars (and drivers) performance than a roll. Read the OP's question. The only exception would be a rolling start on a closed circuit road course. But were not talking RR here.

Only a douche bag would register on tech in order to vote in the OP's poll. And yes, I am on the welcoming committee.


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