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Dig racing or Roll racing???

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Old 12-02-2009, 12:57 AM
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A dig race is a real race IMO. Rolls are fun if a dig is not an option though.
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I voted for both because both are fun and valid.
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wow this has turned into a real battle,to me a roll race proves nothing.
Old 12-02-2009, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 02 z/28
wow this has turned into a real battle,to me a roll race proves nothing.
Except which car is actually faster.
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
let me guess, you have an auto? and all that anger comes from who knows where.

and you are the 9 sec champ on the street it must seem to be calling everyone slow.


it isnt about breaking something, you can go to a 1/4 track and do digs all day if you want. for some people running from a roll is a sensation you cant find at any track.
people break stuff running from a roll as well.
UH. WHAT?!!!....that sounds like something someone would say that has never been to a track. How do you get more of a rush in a roll race over a dig?
Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
Anger? You read way too much into a forum thread. Why would I be angered that you think a rolling start is a better performance comparison. If anything, I find it silly. It indicates you are naive.
4000+lbs Blown 500HP M6 3.73 on street tires means I spin forever on a dig. I rarely get the jump. My ratio of roll to dig races is probably 20 to 1. I pick up an impromptu roll race at least twice a month during my commute. Typically ~50 to ~110mph.
My experience is road racing, not drag racing. Given all this I'd be the first to say a dig is a better indicator of a cars (and drivers) performance than a roll. Read the OP's question. The only exception would be a rolling start on a closed circuit road course. But were not talking RR here.

Only a douche bag would register on tech in order to vote in the OP's poll. And yes, I am on the welcoming committee.
Nice.

Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
Except which car is actually faster.
Uh. What? I hate hearing that lame *** excuse time and time again. So, basically what you are saying is a manual tranny turns into an auto, because a shift can't be botched on a roll.....and shifts points have nothing to do with roll racing. yep...lame.
Old 12-02-2009, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
Uh. What? I hate hearing that lame *** excuse time and time again. So, basically what you are saying is a manual tranny turns into an auto, because a shift can't be botched on a roll.....and shifts points have nothing to do with roll racing. yep...lame.
No. But racing from a roll is 100X more accurate in telling you which car is actually faster then racing from a dig...
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Originally Posted by SSpeedracer
huh? You launch so hard on street tires that you break things? Then you go to the track (imply you use race rubber) and you're not concerned about breaking things. This doesnt make sense.

All of these posts use lame excuses not to dig, probably just slow cars.
I didn't say I don't dig but I drive around on CCW's with BFG's. They will wheel hop pretty bad. Wheel hop = broken parts. At the track Nitto's on stock rims. Reduces chances of wheel hop.
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Originally Posted by RedBeauty84ZX
No. But racing from a roll is 100X more accurate in telling you which car is actually faster then racing from a dig...
Really?

Again......"So, basically what you are saying is a manual tranny turns into an auto, because a shift can't be botched on a roll.....and shifts points have nothing to do with roll racing. yep...lame."


Read it a few times if you have to before you post again. Eventually it'll sink in....well, hopefully.
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Originally Posted by Z06ME
I didn't say I don't dig but I drive around on CCW's with BFG's. They will wheel hop pretty bad. Wheel hop = broken parts. At the track Nitto's on stock rims. Reduces chances of wheel hop.
And if you setup the race, put the stockers back on.

Catching a roll race while you're out and about is one thing, but setting it up.....yeah
Old 12-02-2009, 06:29 PM
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No. But racing from a roll is 100X more accurate in telling you which car is actually faster then racing from a dig...
Seriously?what makes you think that?.....ok for instance ive got a stalled auto car with 4.11s and a th-350 trans.that gives me three gears.so we roll race and i start out in second gear,shift into third,and by 6,000rpm im topped out at about 110mph.so i let out of it well then here comes joe blow flying by from 3 or 4 cars behind in his 5 speed or 6 speed car after we,ve done ran damn near 1/2 a mile probly then he starts bitching saying i let out of it early.cause dont say some of you on here wouldnt be bitching about it cause to all of you who roll race agree that "roll racing shows who has the faster car"

DIG OR DIE *************!!!!!

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Old 12-02-2009, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 1994t/a
Seriously?what makes you think that?.....ok for instance ive got a stalled auto car with 4.11s and a th-350 trans.that gives me three gears.so we roll race and i start out in second gear,shift into third,and by 6,000rpm im topped out at about 110mph.so i let out of it well then here comes joe blow flying by from 3 or 4 cars behind in his 5 speed or 6 speed car after we,ve done ran damn near 1/2 a mile probly then he starts bitching saying i let out of it early.cause dont say some of you on here wouldnt be bitching about it cause to all of you who roll race agree that "roll racing shows who has the faster car"

DIG OR DIE *************!!!!!
so because your street car lacks a proper trans with gears and a clutch pedal everyone should find a race that benefits you?
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Setting up a roll race = rice. DRAG race is from a stop flip on ESPN have a look at the NHRA broadcast. They will show 2 cars racing from a stop. If you dont like that then flip on ESPN2 chances are you can watch NASCAR where everyone races from a roll. I dont see many guys on here posting vids of their cars competing in NASCAR events. But to each his own have fun,be safe, and make sure you dont leave before the third honk . . . .
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
so because your street car lacks a proper trans with gears and a clutch pedal everyone should find a race that benefits you?
You mean since you guys cant hook we sould setup a roll?

Even the fast n' furious went from a dig...

Rolls are simply for when you cant setup a dig..
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so because your street car lacks a proper trans with gears and a clutch pedal everyone should find a race that benefits you
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so your saying the way i built my car ist the proper setup?last time i checked 3 speed automatics where pretty normal thing to see drag racing.actually there kinda popular.hell most ppl run old 2 speed glides just as much.if you even know what that is.and your saying if we raced from a dig and i somked your *** outta the hole all the way until my car has hit its top speed and let out about the time your car was just pulling good that my **** is inferior?i must have called your game with my last post.do you drive a honda?is there something you need to tell everone


My car is set up to drag race like real men do.To come out of the whole hard as i can get to and reach its top speed in the length that is commonly raced (1/4 mile or 1/8 mile) and is excepted as the test of proving whos car is faster by which can get to the finish line before the other.After a 1/4 mile it is done.Whoevers car passes the finish first has the faster car.
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Either.
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Originally Posted by 1994t/a
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so your saying the way i built my car ist the proper setup?last time i checked 3 speed automatics where pretty normal thing to see drag racing.actually there kinda popular.hell most ppl run old 2 speed glides just as much.if you even know what that is.and your saying if we raced from a dig and i somked your *** outta the hole all the way until my car has hit its top speed and let out about the time your car was just pulling good that my **** is inferior?i must have called your game with my last post.do you drive a honda?is there something you need to tell everone


My car is set up to drag race like real men do.To come out of the whole hard as i can get to and reach its top speed in the length that is commonly raced (1/4 mile or 1/8 mile) and is excepted as the test of proving whos car is faster by which can get to the finish line before the other.After a 1/4 mile it is done.Whoevers car passes the finish first has the faster car.
after all the reading ive done...this ^^^ makes the most sense and holds tru. Im not gonna lie, ive rolled raced, maily b/c it happens between commutes on where im headed. If traffic is nil and me and the opposer has an open run..lol HELL yea its goin down....HOWEVER like previously posted, if its scheduled and its setup. Its ALL dig. You cant run your mouth after you had your *** handed to you in the 1320.
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From a dig and I have a manual. So I don't want to hear all this crap about, its too hard to get a good launch. Man up an learn how to drive. I am not against roll racing if the situation doesn't allow for a dig but its damn sure not my first choice.
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
so because your street car lacks a proper trans with gears and a clutch pedal everyone should find a race that benefits you?
Are you kidding? I mean, seriously, are you trying to pull a stopsign and screw with us? Sarcasm right?


Originally Posted by The Manalishi
From a dig and I have a manual. So I don't want to hear all this crap about, its too hard to get a good launch. Man up an learn how to drive. I am not against roll racing if the situation doesn't allow for a dig but its damn sure not my first choice.
+73000 BINGO!!
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Originally Posted by 1994t/a
I want you guys opinon on this.cause i was told the other night by a guy i know thats all about some hondas (cause domestic cars suck in his and his honda friends opinons.this is also after i had just got done racing his buddys gutted out k20 hatch in my nova beating it by about a bus length and then some) that racing from a dig or actually "drag racing" like at the track dosent count when a domestic car beats the hell out of a import.so they informed me that me beating his car wasnt a real race.what do yall think about this?is racing from a roll more of a race or going from a dig more of a race?k20 hatches are supposed to be the greatest thing since sliced bread.his car had never been beat from waht they said.
I can see where the honda guy is coming from, after all you did smoke him..LOL you should of just agreed with him and said..."Yep, that was no race...."

NOw if I have a civic, or anyother Neon, bla bla bla, I'd be voting rol, cause I know my car sucks!!!

I have to to a run with a neon srt-4 with a ported blower, he wanted nothing less then a 70 roll...LOL? anyway I still mopped him by several cars. I started in 2nd(my auto at 6'000 rpm..) hit the gas then quickly clicked the shifter into drive, keeped it pinned to 130 and he was only seen in my rear veiw mirror.

Ask these dueches what kinda roll then need, maybe give them a 10,20 or 30 roll, but if they want something more then a 40, I'd just laugh and ask if they know anyone else who isn't afraid to do a dig run..


When I come across these people I try to be polite but a smartass at the same time. I tell most of the cobras I run ,who want a 40 roll, that I have 1st gear and I'd kinda like to use it, or I ask isn't your car rwd? Oh and you have MT tires on? Most of the time they have widder tires then me.


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