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Old 05-13-2010, 08:53 AM
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so i have a tsp 408(iroon block) with full bolt ons minus a ewp. 1 7/8 headers, ls6 intake, tea stage 2 317(flow 316 at .600), 248/254 .631/.621 110 lsa and 4.10s. what do you think it will dyno and run in the 1/4?
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Originally Posted by 00 black ss
so i have a tsp 408(iroon block) with full bolt ons minus a ewp. 1 7/8 headers, ls6 intake, tea stage 2 317(flow 316 at .600), 248/254 .631/.621 110 lsa and 4.10s. what do you think it will dyno and run in the 1/4?
Well, you told us about your engine, your exhaust, and what gear you're running. Since it takes a lot more than that to get down the track, what about the rest of your setup...trans, tires, wheels, weight, rear end, suspension, etc. Without that, you're not going to get a very good estimate.
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Well, you told us about your engine, your exhaust, and what gear you're running. Since it takes a lot more than that to get down the track, what about the rest of your setup...trans, tires, wheels, weight, rear end, suspension, etc. Without that, you're not going to get a very good estimate.
m6, 275/40/17 et street drag radials, stock 10 bolt so coming out very easily and stock suspension. full weight minus emissions things, jack and spare tire.
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Looks like youll be making good power but your 10 bolt/full weight/stock suspension will prob hold you back a good bit.

I'm saying 11.5's with a safe launch
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Being a full weight car, No Suspension, a 10 bolt and a non-agressive launch, I too say mid to low 11's.

I have a very similar setup 403 LS2 Stroker with a 248/254 .615"/.623" 110LSA Cam and Stock LS6 heads. I have suspension work, Stock 10 bolt with 3.42 gears, and a 4L60E Auto with a Yank SS4000 Stall. I have gone 10.99 at 125.61mph with a Lazy 1.659 60' - being EASY off the line!

Just a little apples to apples comparisons for you. Although every setup will vary some! Some cars are BEASTS and others are DOGS.
Either way Good Luck with it and I hope you get what you want out of the car!
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Being a full weight car, No Suspension, a 10 bolt and a non-agressive launch, I too say mid to low 11's.

I have a very similar setup 403 LS2 Stroker with a 248/254 .615"/.623" 110LSA Cam and Stock LS6 heads. I have suspension work, Stock 10 bolt with 3.42 gears, and a 4L60E Auto with a Yank SS4000 Stall. I have gone 10.99 at 125.61mph with a Lazy 1.659 60' - being EASY off the line!

Just a little apples to apples comparisons for you. Although every setup will vary some! Some cars are BEASTS and others are DOGS.
Either way Good Luck with it and I hope you get what you want out of the car!
thanks for the input man. is that a thunder racing stroker cam? im expecting at least a 11.50 right now. i cant wait till i get my 9 inch with 4.30s at the end of summer that should really make the car move
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Originally Posted by 00 black ss
thanks for the input man. is that a thunder racing stroker cam? im expecting at least a 11.50 right now. i cant wait till i get my 9 inch with 4.30s at the end of summer that should really make the car move
No Problem man, I'm always 1 to help out or lend some advice when I can.
And YES! The cam in my car is a Thunder Racing "Stroker" Grind. It's their version of the Texas Speed "GIANT" cam! Although I don't know who had the cam out on the market first.
11.50's should easily be attainable, But just try to get the 60' down first and then let it rip.
IMO, A good way to learn the car is to go to a track and try to learn how it likes to leave, and then start adjusting things from there. Such as tire pressure, Launch RPM's, and etc. It's always good to learn how the car will launch before you make some full passes. I'd try to make a few 1/8 mile passes and then when you feel comfortable with the car, make a few 1/4 mile passes.
This way you get a chance to play with launching the car, learning how it likes to leave. Then learning how it does in the 1/8th. Just in case it likes to get loose on you. And then when you get the feel for it, you can make some 1/4 mile passes and by then you'll be doing it safely. Knowing how the car will react at WOT means alot when your planning on mowing down the 1/4 at 120+ mph!

As for the 9 inch and 4.30's, That can hurt or benefit you honestly! The 9 inch will not hurt you, but the gear may or may not. It all depends on what the car likes. The 9 inch will help get the car back and forth from the track in 1 piece. But the gear selection means alot to how a car performs. Try to see how the car likes what you have now, and decide whats the best choice from there. 4.56's may be a better choice even. Who Knows!

I say work on the suspension, and get it to hook, and 10's will be no problem!

Just my .02!

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No Problem man, I'm always 1 to help out or lend some advice when I can.
And YES! The cam in my car is a Thunder Racing "Stroker" Grind. It's their version of the Texas Speed "GIANT" cam! Although I don't know who had the cam out on the market first.
11.50's should easily be attainable, But just try to get the 60' down first and then let it rip.
IMO, A good way to learn the car is to go to a track and try to learn how it likes to leave, and then start adjusting things from there. Such as tire pressure, Launch RPM's, and etc. It's always good to learn how the car will launch before you make some full passes. I'd try to make a few 1/8 mile passes and then when you feel comfortable with the car, make a few 1/4 mile passes.
This way you get a chance to play with launching the car, learning how it likes to leave. Then learning how it does in the 1/8th. Just in case it likes to get loose on you. And then when you get the feel for it, you can make some 1/4 mile passes and by then you'll be doing it safely. Knowing how the car will react at WOT means alot when your planning on mowing down the 1/4 at 120+ mph!

As for the 9 inch and 4.30's, That can hurt or benefit you honestly! The 9 inch will not hurt you, but the gear may or may not. It all depends on what the car likes. The 9 inch will help get the car back and forth from the track in 1 piece. But the gear selection means alot to how a car performs. Try to see how the car likes what you have now, and decide whats the best choice from there. 4.56's may be a better choice even. Who Knows!

I say work on the suspension, and get it to hook, and 10's will be no problem!

Just my .02!

James

thanks man i really appreciate all this. will deff post my track times and try and get 10s soon. as long as i hit 11.5 with no problem thats all i really want for now. do you have any idle vids of that cam? is it on the 112 or 110 lsa also? how do you like it?
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Yep I have 2 videos of the car at idle, Theres 1 of it with True Duals and another of it with A set of 1 7/8" TSP LT's and TSP ORY and SLP LM1.
My cam is ground on a 110 LSA. It is a Great Cam IMHO!
I love the way it drives, sounds and how it wakes up at WOT!
I could daily drive this car with NO PROBLEMS... Thats how nice the cam is. Hell I have not even came across an issue with the power brakes. Thats 1 of my biggest concerns, But the brakes feel great too!

I have MANY videos of this car racing, and idleing. And my build thread on F-Quick and in the 1967-2002 Camaro Section in here.
Heres the links...

www.fquick.com/LT1Formula007

https://ls1tech.com/forums/chevrolet...der-knife.html

Here it is with the SLP LM1 on it, I hated the way it sounded honestly!
View Video on FQuick

And here it is with the TSP TD's with Spiral Flow Mufflers. The Video does it NO justice. It sounds Amazing!
View Video on FQuick

And this is the 10.99 pass. My camera was messing up that day, But it still sounded good going down the Track at WOT! Sorry My girl was excited b/c I just ran 2 11.0x passes and she had a feeling this 1 was gonna be a 10.xx. lol
She was right.
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mid 11s man. 6 speed kills you on your 60ft watch the 10bolt it will not last



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