devonsZ28

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i saw one leaving base while i was sittin in line at the gate, he gave me that im better than you smurk, ill make sure to wipe it off his face first chance i get

Ke^in

You are only saying this because you know it's not possible to do. The 5.0 just came out. Only a handful of people that own them are running them on the track. I doubt there is even 5 videos of ANYONE running the 5.0 on a track that isn't a shop or magazine.
Magazine times are usually SLOWER than the car's potential.

Again, I've sat all day long at tracks seeing GTOs like yours hit high 13s low 14s stock. I would never go on a car board and act as if that was the best the car can do. That would be seen as borderline trolling.

Hell, 13.3-13.5 times are decent stock 3v times. I am sure a 4v with over 100 extra HP can get a bit faster than that don't you think?

I mean I surely hope you aren't attempting to say that an auto 5.0 GT runs low to mid 13s stock. If you are, you are one of the few left that is.

Ju1ce

If you know there's less than 5 videos of stock GT's running that aren't shop cars or mag tests how can you sit there and say "stock auto GT's run 12.50's." That's yet to be seen. What I do know is this guy was dead hooking in an auto at 900-1000 DA and running 13.2-13.3 @ about 108 (which is where everyone with a brain was pinning these cars).

The stick version with 3.73's and the perf package or whatever will crack 12's here and there, but for the most part these cars will be 13 second cars.

My GTO bone stock everything and full weight ran 13.018 @ 109 so it's just about right on par with what I'd expect.

While mag times are usually slower, in this car they're quicker. It's already been leaked that the motor trend tests were inflated to help ford create hype for this car. A guy working for motor trend posted pictures of the car (which was a 3.73 geard perf package car) that they also threw smaller wheels on and better rear tires to achieve their times. They also ran in ridiculous air. He was quickly banned from the Mustang board and thread deleted within 6 hours of posting everything.

Ke^in

Again, someone is in denial. Stock S197 3vs are running mid to low 13s stock now. The fastest I've seen a non-magazine non shop one run stock was 13.2. So what you are saying is, the same car, with bettering gearing, DOHC instead of SOHC, and 4vs with an extra 100hp that weighs basically the SAME is going to be hitting similar times?

Really?
What does your GTO have anything to do with it? And like I said, I've seen people hit high 13s low 14s all day long in them.
Prove it.


I've seen three other magazines that ran mid 12s in these cars.

Again, you're in denial.

Ju1ce

What? Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords? or was it (Insert fanboism hype creating magazing here)?

Car & Driver got a 13.3 @ 108 out of their 6spd Mustang, whats up with that?
And what stock 3v's are running low 13's? Thats what the 427r runs with a ******* blower. Guys gotta stop throwing slicks on their cars, bringing them to ATCO in December and acting like thats standard issue.

Ke^in

So what you are basically saying is, no matter what anyone comes up with, you are going to belittle it and ignore the facts. Understood.
And I believe they hit a 13.3-4 in a stock 05 GTO as well. So your 13.0 times must be LIIIIESSS!!1
Last time I saw a stock 427 run it was in the high 12s. I've seen them get faster times. If you'd read what I posted, I said that the FASTEST time I've seen for the 3v was 13.2/3. They average 13.5. Hell the new stock V6 is hitting mid to high 13s stock.
Again, someone is in denial.

If you don't think stock, out of the showroom floor auto GTs are going to be in the 12s easily I don't know what to tell you.

Ke^in

I guess the 12.7 number here is false too?

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2...w-m3-tie-game/

BTW your numbers you gave for the auto GT you claimed to have "seen" is something we have to take for granted that you are speaking the truth about. As we've all read your kill stories before...

88blackgt

since when was dead hooking a good thing

sorry i'm not a fan of tire shake

chavez885

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Sweet article, didn't think they'd be the same for stopping power.

Mid to high 12's is what I expect out of a 3.73 geared M6. High 12's low 13's for the auto.

Ke^in

From what I've seen the auto is doing similar times as the manual. Both are 6spd.

Mr370z

I'm impressed with the 5.0 and it's got real potential. I just want to see some solid numbers on race tracks, specifically VIR, Nurburgring, and Laguna Seca so we can actually compare how it performs to the Camaro SS. It's obvious I drive a 370z and I'm not impressed with the numbers the Nismo 370z runs VIR at... if the 5.0 shows real potential I might be considering a trade in

NightWindDriftr

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It took the Mustang this long? I need to trade in my wife's '05 GT for the new 5.0.

lemons12

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Ju1ce, you are pretty ignorant as far as times go for GTs. The new GT is a solid high 12/low 13, regardless of weather. Some will run a tad slower, some will run a tad faster.
Anybody that runs in average DA (1200-2000) and has the slightest clue of what they are doing will be in the 12s @ 110+mph.

02ls1ss

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why doesn't magazine times count? explain please

Ju1ce

Show me the timeslips from Joe Schmoe in his stock GT! Until then you have nothing but hype to base your claims off.

Too many number games from either fanboi mags or mags with influence.

Ke^in

Because they go against his claim that the 5.0 is a low to mid 13 second car.

Ju1ce

mid 13's @ 3200ft DA...
A sharp contrast from the -1500ft DA that motor trend ran their test car in.

Ke^in

The only person that has mentioned the motor trend numbers has been you. Many times.

Again, is the 12.7 number here false too? Are they in cahoots (I love using that word) with Ford as well?

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/16/2...w-m3-tie-game/

lemons12

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I am not going off hype, I am going off what I know they will run.

Ke^in

I am not sure why he is acting so defensive about it. With a stock LS2 GTO, sure the GT would beat it. But doesn't Ju1ce have a modded GTO? Those LS2 GTOs can be quick with little mods.

I'd probably buy a used LS2 GTO before I would buy a new 5.0. But that's because I'm cheap like that.