How to tell a Grand National from a T Type
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I am going to look at a grand national tomorrow and was wondering how I can determine if it is a grand national or just a t type clone. Any help would be appreciated.
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Dan
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Dan
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just make sure that the VIN on the RPO sheet on the underside of the trunk lid matches the VIN on the dash, then look for the WE2.
trunk lids and hoods seem to rust if it hasnt been painted so people replace them often, thats why I would check. Refer to this site for further questions it has any info you can think of
gnttype.org
trunk lids and hoods seem to rust if it hasnt been painted so people replace them often, thats why I would check. Refer to this site for further questions it has any info you can think of
gnttype.org
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thanks for the quick response guys. i took a look at the car and it was in fact a we2 car. it did however have differents seats then i am used to seeing in GN. Opposed to the typical black cloth seats with the white inserts it had black leather inserts with grayish sides. was this just a different option for the GNs?
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they make aftermarket reproduction covers for the Gn and they are very expensive, somewher in the 800 range. http://www.jaxseatcover.com/gn/leather.cfm
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thanks for all the help guys, to answer some of the questions it is a 84. I looked up the Lear Siegler seats and those are without a doubt what are in the car, so it sounds like its got a fairly rare option, however the seats are not in that great of shape. Regardless, for the price i dont think i can go wrong on the car and plan on going back later this week to pick it up. thanks again
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also check out
www.turbobuick.com and www.turbobuicks.com those guys know their stuff. I was chasing after some grand nationals for a while, but never could find one that I wanted
Good luck with it!
www.turbobuick.com and www.turbobuicks.com those guys know their stuff. I was chasing after some grand nationals for a while, but never could find one that I wanted
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I remember the earlier GNs and T-types well (my ex-sister-in-law's dad actually bought a brand new turbo Regal back in 1978, first or second year of production I believe), those '84s weren't as fast as the '86s/'87s but they are still badass rides.
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Cool, post some pics if/when ya get it. ![Mr. Cool](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_cool.gif)
I remember the earlier GNs and T-types well (my ex-sister-in-law's dad actually bought a brand new turbo Regal back in 1978, first or second year of production I believe), those '84s weren't as fast as the '86s/'87s but they are still badass rides.![Nod](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_nod.gif)
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I remember the earlier GNs and T-types well (my ex-sister-in-law's dad actually bought a brand new turbo Regal back in 1978, first or second year of production I believe), those '84s weren't as fast as the '86s/'87s but they are still badass rides.
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That's right about the year. 1978 was the first year of the G-Body, even though it was still called the A Body. 1982 was the "Official" year of it being called a G Body.
As far as Turbobuick(s).com, they def know their stuff. I sold my T-Type within 4 hours of posting there too.
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IMO stay away from an 84, they are not nearly as sought upon and go for very very cheap. The hot air cars 84/85 are slow and i dont even think one has been faster then 12.90s with a ton of stuff done. At least get an 86 your gonna spend more but your gonna have a solid investment whereas the 84 will depreciate. Ive seen tons for sale for 3k in good shape. If you have any other ???? feel free to PM me.
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yeah 84/85 are the years to stay away from. my 84s ran 12's with work but the 86/87 runs 12s with a tire and a couple turns of the wastegate rod. i would not get an 84/85, unless you plan to keep it stock and just cruise. look for the g80 option "posi" also it should be a must. turbotweek chip, scan master and ls1 maf translator are a must buy asap. alky wakes these cars up "only use razor kits". i used to run 32psi and 35' timing in each gear before i did heads and cam with alky.
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thanks guys, i knew they werent as fast or valuable, but i didnt know it was quite that extreme. i figured that 5 grand was a good price considering i typically see 86-87 sell for 10-15
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yea id only pay 5 grand for an 84/85 if it was mint condition, and even then I would swap an 86/87 driveline in it but thats somewhat of a pain. keep your eye out, i just picked up an 87 ttype with fresh paint and rebuilt motor/trans bigger turbo for 3k, all i had to do was put the interior completely back together and exterior trim pcs. motor runs great. deals are out there but i think youll be let down with a hot air car.
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see if you can find an astro roof T type. They are rare and are starting to bring good money. Also 86's had a chrome suround on the grille as apposed to the 87's that were all black. There were way more 87's then 86's so an 86 will bring good money as well. Or find an 89 TTA only 1500 of those made.