11.25 @ 125 :/ spinning
10-25-2010, 08:50 PM
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Brandon just give me a call when you going i got the Bogarts ready so we can work on the suspension and get the 60's in check.
Greg see ya at the track soon watch out Joe's getting closer in the Vert.
Greg see ya at the track soon watch out Joe's getting closer in the Vert.
10-25-2010, 10:19 PM
#22
Hey Greg, 
I've been racing all year in the Corvette Challenge series (Pro 11.50 index) at Englishtown but that's over in a couple of weeks and then yes, I'll hopefully be visiting Atco a few times on my quest for another tenth if it's possible. 
I've been racing all year in the Corvette Challenge series (Pro 11.50 index) at Englishtown but that's over in a couple of weeks and then yes, I'll hopefully be visiting Atco a few times on my quest for another tenth if it's possible. 
10-27-2010, 09:18 AM
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Yeah that's another option, some 4.30s or 4.56s with 28" tires maybe. But he does still drive it on the street a lot so he'd likely have to get some taller street tires as well.
10-27-2010, 03:43 PM
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dont worry, ive already been thinking about 28s and 4.56s. when i go the gears, im redoing the rear, ie. gun drilled axles star flange and spool 
10-28-2010, 11:45 AM
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how many other 3500 lb cam only stick cars have been 10.80 at 3500 lbs? With as small a cam? I cant honestly say i think my car would have gone faster on a slick. If you think so, but I think it was working it pretty good, 1.47 60 anyway
Dont believe the hype, stick cars can work on a radial, Ive done it, like a couple years ago. Takes more to get it right, but then again doesnt everything
If you want to come down for the cam only class at Import vs Domestic we have a set of pretty fresh 26" slicks to get rid of cheap, might have an ol set of the 275 i run
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10-29-2010, 06:58 AM
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Drag radials are one of the most inconsistant tires out there (for 6 speed cars). For max effort, max results your not going to have that and consistancy. At best the car has to run slower than its potential in order to have that. A DR can possibly have the fastest single run but the other 9 most times are all over the place.
Stop fighting the car and run what make sense.
Like it really matters anyways when you start to go fast, most class rules makes it almost impossible to run competitivly with a manual even if its a faceplated trans. The ONLY set up that I have seen work is a Soft-lok clutch, too pricey for street use but ideal for track only.....
http://www.mcleodracing.com/products...lt.asp?id=5174
Right now the Hype is Drag Radials and based on what you have said, I do not see anything showing me what you run different to get the radial to work.
BUT IMO I will say a 2 step is required, running the tallest/widest DR (prob M/T), then getting a clutch assembly to help put "slip" into the launch. Then a trans that allows for clean shifting.
I hate to get heated about this but when someone tells me something and at face value I have to take the answer, meh. It really does not help.
10-29-2010, 08:57 AM
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i cut 1.40 to 1.45's all day long on bias ply's. radials were too incosistent and required slipping the clutch, which hurt my clutch and wouldnt let me shift. now on a soft lock or slipper style clutch i feel your chances on radials bein more cosistent would be better. as far as faster, i think you'd have to take a car and run both radials and bias plys to see which one worked better for the set up bein run on that car. food for thought: fastest drag cars use bias ply
10-29-2010, 09:14 AM
#33
required slipping the clutch, which hurt my clutch and wouldnt let me shift.
as far as faster, i think you'd have to take a car and run both radials and bias plys to see which one worked better for the set up bein run on that car. food for thought: fastest drag cars use bias ply
as far as faster, i think you'd have to take a car and run both radials and bias plys to see which one worked better for the set up bein run on that car. food for thought: fastest drag cars use bias ply
I have done back to back passes. Slicks were .08 slower on a mid 9 second auto NA car (1.25 on 275s, 1.29 on 28x10s), and about a full tenth slower on my car.
Slicks will be more consistant, but there is more potential ET as a result of less wasted motion in the radial
You need to correct that last line. The fastest class cars like stock elim/comp etc, dont run just slicks, they run very light RADIAL slicks.
10-29-2010, 12:04 PM
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Of course, youd have to get a clutch that works. Ive been thru clutches that would let car leave easily but didnt disengage properly and couldnt shift it hard, but that goes without saying
I have done back to back passes. Slicks were .08 slower on a mid 9 second auto NA car (1.25 on 275s, 1.29 on 28x10s), and about a full tenth slower on my car.
Slicks will be more consistant, but there is more potential ET as a result of less wasted motion in the radial
You need to correct that last line. The fastest class cars like stock elim/comp etc, dont run just slicks, they run very light RADIAL slicks.
I have done back to back passes. Slicks were .08 slower on a mid 9 second auto NA car (1.25 on 275s, 1.29 on 28x10s), and about a full tenth slower on my car.
Slicks will be more consistant, but there is more potential ET as a result of less wasted motion in the radial
You need to correct that last line. The fastest class cars like stock elim/comp etc, dont run just slicks, they run very light RADIAL slicks.
class cars faster maybe, but the FASTEST classes in drag racing run bias ply slicks. you dont see john force on any type of drag radial
10-29-2010, 12:50 PM
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this post is about a stick shift car not an auto. auto and stick cars leave completely different. sayin how your auto car 60 ft times are better on radials then bias ply doesn't really help in this thread.
class cars faster maybe, but the FASTEST classes in drag racing run bias ply slicks. you dont see john force on any type of drag radial
class cars faster maybe, but the FASTEST classes in drag racing run bias ply slicks. you dont see john force on any type of drag radial
Top Fuel advice doesnt apply to most sportsmans door cars, they run on the verge of hydraulicing the cylinders with fuel and have power to spin them at 1319 ft. Of course a 275 radial isnt the tire choice.
If an adrenaline shot to the heart is the only way to revive someone in a coke induced heart attack, is it the best way to wake yourself up in the morning, or just stick with coffee from Dunkin Donuts? WTF
Put any cam only car next to me for cash around 3500 lbs with a stick, Ill be on radials you on slicks, Ill be comfortable on anything but the worst tracks
10-29-2010, 01:03 PM
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Radials can work with a stick a car u just need proper suspension tuning, u might even have to pull some timing out at the launch but u can do it and they are faster than slick thats a fact.
A car I helped crew for pulls 8 degrees timing out at launch on the radial no bars and 60s 1.23 vs 1.29 with slick and wheelie bars and all timing in. also went tenth and a half faster on the big end.
A car I helped crew for pulls 8 degrees timing out at launch on the radial no bars and 60s 1.23 vs 1.29 with slick and wheelie bars and all timing in. also went tenth and a half faster on the big end.
10-29-2010, 01:25 PM
#38
Guess you missed the part about ON MY CAR also? the cam only stick car in my sig? If you can hook it, its faster period. No think so's it is. It doesnt grow so it doesnt kill gear, waste less ET in sidewall wrapping up. Mine dead hooks off limiter on a decent track. Its done it 40-50 times, not twice.
Top Fuel advice doesnt apply to most sportsmans door cars, they run on the verge of hydraulicing the cylinders with fuel and have power to spin them at 1319 ft. Of course a 275 radial isnt the tire choice.
If an adrenaline shot to the heart is the only way to revive someone in a coke induced heart attack, is it the best way to wake yourself up in the morning, or just stick with coffee from Dunkin Donuts? WTF
Put any cam only car next to me for cash around 3500 lbs with a stick, Ill be on radials you on slicks, Ill be comfortable on anything but the worst tracks
Top Fuel advice doesnt apply to most sportsmans door cars, they run on the verge of hydraulicing the cylinders with fuel and have power to spin them at 1319 ft. Of course a 275 radial isnt the tire choice.
If an adrenaline shot to the heart is the only way to revive someone in a coke induced heart attack, is it the best way to wake yourself up in the morning, or just stick with coffee from Dunkin Donuts? WTF
Put any cam only car next to me for cash around 3500 lbs with a stick, Ill be on radials you on slicks, Ill be comfortable on anything but the worst tracks
top fuel isnt the only class that the fastest cars run slicks and i was generalizing.
and your car isn't cam only........it never came with a ls1 if u wanna get techical
10-29-2010, 03:05 PM
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Radials can work with a stick a car u just need proper suspension tuning, u might even have to pull some timing out at the launch but u can do it and they are faster than slick thats a fact.
A car I helped crew for pulls 8 degrees timing out at launch on the radial no bars and 60s 1.23 vs 1.29 with slick and wheelie bars and all timing in. also went tenth and a half faster on the big end.
A car I helped crew for pulls 8 degrees timing out at launch on the radial no bars and 60s 1.23 vs 1.29 with slick and wheelie bars and all timing in. also went tenth and a half faster on the big end.
Johny K setting SSO record on 275 radials in a 29.5x10 slick class isnt relevant
Radial cars winning every slick vs radial race that Im aware of?
If you can make the car get down, its going to go faster.
My cars not cam only because it didnt come with a LS1? Seriously you said that? I guess SSPerformance should say he has the fastest cam only car now because his didnt either. Or Magnus. Its the same car! Thats silly.
Dont know why youd get so bent, its a fact, it can be done, it doesnt take magic or crazy parts (although good **** helps)
Spohn torque arm, textralia clutch, 4.56s, 275 radials, QA1 shocks nothing out of the ordinary and it cuts high 1.4 60 fts as good or better than most cars similair.
10-29-2010, 03:49 PM
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Nope, no way, couldnt have happened. Someone hasnt done it or seen it so apprently your personal experience trying to tell them it is in fact possible is somehow irrelevant
Johny K setting SSO record on 275 radials in a 29.5x10 slick class isnt relevant
Radial cars winning every slick vs radial race that Im aware of?
If you can make the car get down, its going to go faster.
My cars not cam only because it didnt come with a LS1? Seriously you said that? I guess SSPerformance should say he has the fastest cam only car now because his didnt either. Or Magnus. Its the same car! Thats silly.
Dont know why youd get so bent, its a fact, it can be done, it doesnt take magic or crazy parts (although good **** helps)
Spohn torque arm, textralia clutch, 4.56s, 275 radials, QA1 shocks nothing out of the ordinary and it cuts high 1.4 60 fts as good or better than most cars similair.
Johny K setting SSO record on 275 radials in a 29.5x10 slick class isnt relevant
Radial cars winning every slick vs radial race that Im aware of?
If you can make the car get down, its going to go faster.
My cars not cam only because it didnt come with a LS1? Seriously you said that? I guess SSPerformance should say he has the fastest cam only car now because his didnt either. Or Magnus. Its the same car! Thats silly.
Dont know why youd get so bent, its a fact, it can be done, it doesnt take magic or crazy parts (although good **** helps)
Spohn torque arm, textralia clutch, 4.56s, 275 radials, QA1 shocks nothing out of the ordinary and it cuts high 1.4 60 fts as good or better than most cars similair.