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Old 04-26-2011, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoobysnacks
I thought that was always a law in M.A. I remember I went to a meet/cruise in Mansfield back in the early 2000's and the State Troopers pulled us all over(like 30 cars) and gave everyone form M.A. with an aftermarket exhaust a ticket.
In a round about way it always has been. Just even moving the placement of catalytic converters triggers a federal violation.

http://www.catalyticconverter.org/law/index.htm

If you got headers, cats or not, your technically illegal in the US for operation on the street.

The law is so gray, like mentioend above its totally up to the cop if he wants to give you a hard time. Most don't, but if you drive like a menace to society its just another thing to pin you with.



I'm with Slowhawk, Trump may not be the best choice, but man he's brash, to the point, knows how to run a business and a legacy, and if you don't like what he says its because its true, and it hurts. I like him enough. He is leading the GOP by a large margin.

Either way in 2012 I hope I don't have to write in my choice again....
Old 04-26-2011, 01:04 PM
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Trump tells it the way it is and puts reporters on the defensive. We need that kind of leader instead of these "go along to get along" bureaucrats that do nothing except make things worse. Anyone see this? Keep grilling them Trump way to go!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8EoVNVOoYU
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Originally Posted by senicalj4579
How many voted for Obuma falling for his "hope and change" bullshit? Yea, you didnt realise his hope and change was to transform the greatest nation on earth into a bunch of socialists sucking off the government tit until it goes to far into debt that we are forced into one global currency.

Here's the proof, those contributions pretty much sealed the deal.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/imf...end-2011-04-25

Good job liberals.
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This bill is being pushed because every fricken acura and honda has some stupid **** can exahust thats olouder then a 2 stroke atv or dirt bike without mufflers. I got to ******** down the street with RSXs and integras that cant drive standard and just rev the **** out of their motor everywhere they go.

You need t look at it from others peoples view. I hate being wokin up at 5 AM because of some stupid catless honda.
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Always looking for money.

Hope Trump runs. Like his idea's and he definitely know's how to make money off other countries. **** Iraq, take the oil to help pay our military bill.
I'm sure no more American soilders lives will be lost executing that idea.


Trump is an out of touch douchebag. Then again, aren't they all?
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Originally Posted by DannoWS6
Here's the proof, those contributions pretty much sealed the deal.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/imf...end-2011-04-25

Good job liberals.
Yep, and the messed up thing about it is that they will say its all Bushs fault. Sure, GB started some of the big spending but Obuma tripled the debt his 1st year I believe? Massive spending, bs government programs, socialist healthcare, he wanted the Bush tax cuts to expire, ect.... Oh and before he was elected didnt he say we would be taking our troops home? Yea, well heh, we are all of a sudden in 5 more wars right now in the middle east so he can put his muslim brotherhood jerkoffs in power. 2012 just cant get here fast enough...if we even last that long....
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Originally Posted by senicalj4579
Yep, and the messed up thing about it is that they will say its all Bushs fault. Sure, GB started some of the big spending but Obuma tripled the debt his 1st year I believe? Massive spending, bs government programs, socialist healthcare, he wanted the Bush tax cuts to expire, ect.... Oh and before he was elected didnt he say we would be taking our troops home? Yea, well heh, we are all of a sudden in 5 more wars right now in the middle east so he can put his muslim brotherhood jerkoffs in power. 2012 just cant get here fast enough...if we even last that long....

Most of this stuff was birthed in the Carter era, and like you said Obama really slammed us with debt and did the total opposite what he should have done. Cut costs, trim fat, smaller gov't, tighter borders, less world policing, lets not even begin to talk about healthcare and bailouts spreading us out too thin. The Presidency doesn't really matter anymore, no matter who gets into office we are royally F'ed, its all about damage control now. Our Kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, etc are gonna be born into debt.

I LOVE this country and it makes me sick to live in an era where we see it suffer because of decisions I feel are wrong to begin with.

In a democracy you don't always get the best gov't, you just get the one you deserve. I'm sure our forefathers would be P.O'ed.


Sorry OP for the Hijack.
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i went to HS with his daughter. maybe ill send her a message on FB
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Originally Posted by DannoWS6
Most of this stuff was birthed in the Carter era, and like you said Obama really slammed us with debt and did the total opposite what he should have done. Cut costs, trim fat, smaller gov't, tighter borders, less world policing, lets not even begin to talk about healthcare and bailouts spreading us out too thin. The Presidency doesn't really matter anymore, no matter who gets into office we are royally F'ed, its all about damage control now. Our Kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, etc are gonna be born into debt.

I LOVE this country and it makes me sick to live in an era where we see it suffer because of decisions I feel are wrong to begin with.

In a democracy you don't always get the best gov't, you just get the one you deserve. I'm sure our forefathers would be P.O'ed.


Sorry OP for the Hijack.

Well we def have the same values and I agree 100% but I am a little more optimistic about things. I know alot of ducks have to be lined up in a row to fix the debt but its not totally over yet. Take a look at how the Tea Party cleaned out the house in Nov. It was no coincidence that the Dems were voted out. As long as Tea Party keeps growing stronger I can see us putting up a very big fight. To many people sit around as say "what can we do about it?!" and thats one of the reasons why things have ened up like they are.
I like Trumps ideas about taxing Chinas goods that come here by 25% or more. Hes the only person who standing up and addressing these issues that no one wants to touch. I love how he grilled Obuma. Who else has the ***** to do what hes doing? We need a stand up guy like that.
If anyone has a problem with his personality thats just stupid. What would be important is the mans policies that would help us bring jobs here so we can compete again. Check out Trumps latest and see if you like what hes got to say...http://www.theblaze.com/stories/tira...-vegas-casino/
Alright sorry OP its gotten out of control.
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Originally Posted by DannoWS6
Most of this stuff was birthed in the Carter era, and like you said Obama really slammed us with debt and did the total opposite what he should have done. Cut costs, trim fat, smaller gov't, tighter borders, less world policing, lets not even begin to talk about healthcare and bailouts spreading us out too thin. The Presidency doesn't really matter anymore, no matter who gets into office we are royally F'ed, its all about damage control now. Our Kids, kids, kids, kids, kids, etc are gonna be born into debt.

I LOVE this country and it makes me sick to live in an era where we see it suffer because of decisions I feel are wrong to begin with.

In a democracy you don't always get the best gov't, you just get the one you deserve. I'm sure our forefathers would be P.O'ed.


Sorry OP for the Hijack.

This. And lets not forget our friends at the EPA NOT handing out the off shore drilling permits they promised off Alaska. 27 billion barrels in our own backyard and our lovely government won't let Shell drill, even after they've spent 4 billion already in exploration costs. Can't wait to fill up....********.

You want to stimulate spending?? How about you give the public SOME spending power instead of us shelling it out at the pump. Check out the 1Q earnings...gas and food prices are killing them. Numbers don't lie, politicians do.
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the progressive movement has actually been around for a long time. Woodrow Wilson was one and he was terrible. Calivin Coolidge straightened the whole depression out after WW by towering taxes so buisness could thrive again in America. We could do it again if everyone wants to get involved and do their part.
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Originally Posted by senicalj4579
Trump tells it the way it is and puts reporters on the defensive. We need that kind of leader instead of these "go along to get along" bureaucrats that do nothing except make things worse. Anyone see this? Keep grilling them Trump way to go!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8EoVNVOoYU
I don't know if that was supposed to be a joke or not....

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Trump is an out of touch douchebag. Then again, aren't they all?
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You can pin this on the federal reserve. The globleists, and the NWO.

Dont get caught up in the left/right NONSENCE.

I got news for you the damage started in 1913.
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I hate NY and Mass laws where the police officers mood determines whether or not you get an exhaust ticket. And in my neck of the woods it's a $50 fine now instead of a "fix it" ticket. Here is what i typed up to send out to show my opposition:


Members of the Joint Transportation Committee,

Please pass on my opposition to H.B. 952 which would ban the “use and sale of any exhaust pipe that increases the sound emission of any vehicle including motorcycles”. The law would hurt people financially and adversely affect hobbyists.

Motorist with damaged or rusted exhaust pipes would be required to purchase new pipes directly from their vehicles manufactures, which is significantly more expensive than generic replacements. Very often it would force low-income drivers to waste hundreds of dollars to purchase a compliant exhaust system, as any aftermarket replacement can be considered to “increase the sound emission” of the vehicle. There is no way to measure the volume of the motor and leaving this judgment solely up to police officers is not fair to anyone. Often new sports cars, diesel powered trucks, and motorcycles are designed by manufacturers to produce a louder engine volume than cars with a modified exhaust. So where can the line be drawn? Can new vehicles sitting on dealer lots be considered “too loud”?

Classic car restorers, sports car enthusiasts and the aftermarket car parts industry would be adversely affected by H.B. 952 as well. Manufactures stop producing replacement exhaust pipes after a number of years when a majority of models produced in a certain year reach the end of their life cycle. This forces older vehicle owners and classic car restorers to purchase aftermarket systems which often “increase the sound emission” of the vehicle. But then again, without a decibel meter there is no way to accurately measure an increase in volume. Sports car enthusiast install exhaust pipes that increase the airflow through their engines, which makes for a more powerful and efficient vehicle. Also, the myth that aftermarket pipes increase fuel emissions can be proven wrong by a 5-gas emissions analyzer, which is a tool used at some automotive repair facilities.

I am very opposed to H.B. 952 because it would harm low-income families and those who are passionate about their cars.

Thank You,
From a concerned American
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Originally Posted by datz kool
You can pin this on the federal reserve. The globleists, and the NWO.

Dont get caught up in the left/right NONSENCE.

I got news for you the damage started in 1913.
zeitgeist...
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Originally Posted by DannoWS6
zeitgeist...
I see your your not one of the ZOMBIE sheeple.

Dont become a debt slave...........
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Datz kool 1913 started the over reach of the government but I our career idiot problem started with Adams because he thought it would be fun to run for office and be powerful and nor because he wanted to better the country he was self minded and in many ways had the effect to usher in people running for office with their own personal gain ahead of the country
I hate to say it but trump is going to be a mistake if he's elected I like some of his ideas but he will get block by congress and won't have support to get anything meaningful passed unless he can get republican support like Obama got the dens support it'll be four years of lots potential
BTW Obama isn't an option either but most people have figures that out by.now




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