Pittsburgh dodged a bullit
01-18-2005, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OrangeSS
Its funny how the Pats have a few good season and now there the ****. You Mass fans are a bunch of retards. I quess when u are surrounded by losing teams like all u retards have been u'll start over reacting to a few good seasons. Ur area and teams will always be known as the loser state I mean u have loyal players who leave ur teams to go to other cities to win there championships. Hahahahaha choke choke choke the PAts wil go
01-18-2005, 03:50 PM
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It's going to be a great game no matter what..Everyone is throwing up the running stats..Remember who is #1 at stopping the run & has the #1 Defense..Defense usually wins championships..I believe I heard the other day that the last 3 teams to allow the fewest points in a season won the Super Bowl..Guess who allowed the fewest this Season? You got it, Pittsburgh
01-18-2005, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
It's going to be a great game no matter what..Everyone is throwing up the running stats..Remember who is #1 at stopping the run & has the #1 Defense..Defense usually wins championships..I believe I heard the other day that the last 3 teams to allow the fewest points in a season won the Super Bowl..Guess who allowed the fewest this Season? You got it, Pittsburgh
01-18-2005, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Pats are #2 behind pittburg in giving up the fewest points (15.7 versus 16.3 points a game). I think what some of you guys are forgetting about is that when two great defenses go at it, it comes down to special teams and offense as the difference makers. I threw up the running stats to to show that pittsburg's top 2 running backs arent as good as you guys think. The reason everyone thinks they wear down teams is because they get alot of carries in order to keep the ball out of Ben's hands. Rergardless, someone is gonna eat crow on Monday, and I hope it isnt me since I got superbowl tickets
01-18-2005, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan
To be # 2 in the league in Rushing offense is not as good as I think? If the Steelers win, will you sell me those tickets cheap? Hahaha
01-19-2005, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by griffz28350
they also had a hell of a lot more attempts. they had 618 while atlanta who was no.1 had around 520, and everyone behind pittsbugh had less than that. why, because other teams have more of a balanced attack, so they dont run as much. as long as we stop the run, we will win, cuz i really dont see rothli-somethin doing anything great this weekend. and all the pittsburegh fans are gonna say "well, ummm,... you wont be able to stop the run" well thats what everyone said about the colts whole offense too, so we shall see
As for Atlanta being the top running team....if you factor the QB stats out of it how do they compare? Vick is a freak and runs a lot which inflates the running stats.
01-19-2005, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan
To be # 2 in the league in Rushing offense is not as good as I think? If the Steelers win, will you sell me those tickets cheap? Hahaha
01-19-2005, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by black_ws6
Have you ever thought about why Pittsburgh had so many carries? With a 15-1 record, they were obviously winning more often than they were losing. And what do teams that are winning do???? They run the ball to kill the clock. Duh!
As for Atlanta being the top running team....if you factor the QB stats out of it how do they compare? Vick is a freak and runs a lot which inflates the running stats.
As for Atlanta being the top running team....if you factor the QB stats out of it how do they compare? Vick is a freak and runs a lot which inflates the running stats.
Vicks numbers only matter for the total yes, but the running back is still getting good yards per carry.
01-19-2005, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Warrick Dunn for Atlanta - (265carries/ 1106 yards/ 4.2 average)
Vicks numbers only matter for the total yes, but the running back is still getting good yards per carry.
Vicks numbers only matter for the total yes, but the running back is still getting good yards per carry.
Can't forget my favorite of their running backs TJ Duckett who contributed a little over 500 yards himself to the cause. Also averaged about 5 yards per carry.
01-19-2005, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
Who cares how many games he played?? Look at how many carries he had! Look at yards per carry!!!
Here is what you need to know (carries/yards/average)
Jerome Bettis: (250carries/ 941yards/ 3.8yards)
Deuce Staley (192carries/ 830yards/ 4.3yards)
Corey Dillon (345carries/ 1635 yards/ 4.7 yards)
Kevin Faulk (54 carries/ 255yards/ 4.7 yards)
Lets see, it took Pittsburgs 2 running backs (442 carries/ 1771 yards/ 4.0 yards)
Lets see, it took New Englands 2 running backs to get (399 carries/ 1890 yards/ 4.7 yards)
As far as rushing yards on Sunday, the Jets nabbed 4.1 yards a carry against the steelers, so they arent as great as you guys make them out to be. If Corey runs for 70yds, and kevin runs 30, who cares what the total is. Its yards/carry. We may only run the ball 20 times and get 80 yards (4 yards/carry), which is a decent average. Dont look at total yards, look at yards per rush because it reflects how many times we TRIED to run the ball. Steelers could get 200 yards rushing, but it will take 50-60 carries to do it.
Here is what you need to know (carries/yards/average)
Jerome Bettis: (250carries/ 941yards/ 3.8yards)
Deuce Staley (192carries/ 830yards/ 4.3yards)
Corey Dillon (345carries/ 1635 yards/ 4.7 yards)
Kevin Faulk (54 carries/ 255yards/ 4.7 yards)
Lets see, it took Pittsburgs 2 running backs (442 carries/ 1771 yards/ 4.0 yards)
Lets see, it took New Englands 2 running backs to get (399 carries/ 1890 yards/ 4.7 yards)
As far as rushing yards on Sunday, the Jets nabbed 4.1 yards a carry against the steelers, so they arent as great as you guys make them out to be. If Corey runs for 70yds, and kevin runs 30, who cares what the total is. Its yards/carry. We may only run the ball 20 times and get 80 yards (4 yards/carry), which is a decent average. Dont look at total yards, look at yards per rush because it reflects how many times we TRIED to run the ball. Steelers could get 200 yards rushing, but it will take 50-60 carries to do it.
Patriots rushing - 5 yards devided by 6 attempts = .8 yards per attempt
Steelers rushing - 221 yards devided by 49 attempts = 4.5 yards per rush
Why did you guys only rush 6 times? Because you can't run against the Steelers... Hope Brady will be accurate in his passing game.
01-19-2005, 09:19 AM
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I don't think you can count yards per rush opposed to total rusing yards in this game..If Corey Dillon runs 10 times for 50yrds & Bettis runs for 100 on 30 carries, who do you think wins? Probably The Steelers because they are controlling the clock..YDS per carry doesn't matter in this one game unless Dillon gets 100 yrds on 10 carries..I am just using this as an example...We held the Rushing champion Curtis Martin to like 77 yards in each game, but who controlled the clock by a landslide? Pittsburgh
01-19-2005, 09:30 AM
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yeah i know it is late, but i don't often venture into the eastern forum.... i couldn't watch the second jets attempt! i too was a nervous wreck!
hats off to the jets, their defense and special teams almost pulled one out.
big ben definitely needs to at least play like he did all year, mainly making s,art decisions. rookie mistakes i guess. as a wole they definitely earned the right to be in the conference finals! if they don't flat out get beat bad by new england, or beat the heck out of them, which i am pretty sure won't happen ,i just might have a heart attack! watching this sunday's game!
if i drank tequila last saturday, that might have triggered a heart attack. either way i think pittsburgh will give new england all they can handle! and how about the Bus!
hats off to the jets, their defense and special teams almost pulled one out.
big ben definitely needs to at least play like he did all year, mainly making s,art decisions. rookie mistakes i guess. as a wole they definitely earned the right to be in the conference finals! if they don't flat out get beat bad by new england, or beat the heck out of them, which i am pretty sure won't happen ,i just might have a heart attack! watching this sunday's game!
if i drank tequila last saturday, that might have triggered a heart attack. either way i think pittsburgh will give new england all they can handle! and how about the Bus!
01-19-2005, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001 Pewter WS6
Ok lets see here, last time we played you guys
Patriots rushing - 5 yards devided by 6 attempts = .8 yards per attempt
Steelers rushing - 221 yards devided by 49 attempts = 4.5 yards per rush
Why did you guys only rush 6 times? Because you can't run against the Steelers... Hope Brady will be accurate in his passing game.
Patriots rushing - 5 yards devided by 6 attempts = .8 yards per attempt
Steelers rushing - 221 yards devided by 49 attempts = 4.5 yards per rush
Why did you guys only rush 6 times? Because you can't run against the Steelers... Hope Brady will be accurate in his passing game.
01-19-2005, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan
I don't think you can count yards per rush opposed to total rusing yards in this game..If Corey Dillon runs 10 times for 50yrds & Bettis runs for 100 on 30 carries, who do you think wins? Probably The Steelers because they are controlling the clock..YDS per carry doesn't matter in this one game unless Dillon gets 100 yrds on 10 carries..I am just using this as an example...We held the Rushing champion Curtis Martin to like 77 yards in each game, but who controlled the clock by a landslide? Pittsburgh
Believe it or not the Pats use passing as ball control and time of possession scheming. Short passes/screen passes are a big favorite. The Patriots have been the first team to score in a game I think 29 of their last 30 games, and usually they dont trail at all.
I would tend to think Bettis and Staley will need a combined 200 yards Saunday to win. I doubt they will break the 100 mark, but we'll see. The Pats defensive scheming is good at taking away the aspect of a team that will hurt you the most. In the case of the steelers, its the running game. Pats will plan on taking that away, so it will come down to how well Ben can execute.
Speaking of time of possession, the Pats had the ball 15 minutes more than the best offense in the league. Thats a full quarter extra, not bad.
01-19-2005, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
You still dont get it do you. the best running back in football didnt play that day.
Now personally I think the 2 teams are very, very evenly matched. Great defense, great running attack, adequate passing. It is going to come down to field position advantages by turnovers and the punt teams, and big plays.
Look at the win in week 8:
a 50 yard pass to Plex
a 20 yard scoring drive after a Brady fumble
an interception return for a TD. 21 to 0. To me those are all a result of big plays that you cannot predict. It can go either way Sunday, I just hope it the Black and Gold can pull one out.
01-19-2005, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
You still dont get it do you. the best running back in football didnt play that day.
http://1007.com/audio/BradyBunch.mp3
Last edited by 2001 Pewter WS6; 01-19-2005 at 10:46 AM.
01-19-2005, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001 Pewter WS6
You don't get it... We took on the BEST back in the league and he couldn't run on us. What makes you think Dillon will be able to. Also you talk about time of posession. We had the ball for 40 minutes against the Pats. Who lead the league in Time of Posession?? Not New England, Pittsburgh did using ball control. Everyone... Please just listen to this... right click - save as
http://1007.com/audio/BradyBunch.mp3
http://1007.com/audio/BradyBunch.mp3
Its going to come down to turnovers. Whoever makes the fewest wins.
01-19-2005, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001 Pewter WS6
You don't get it... We took on the BEST back in the league and he couldn't run on us. What makes you think Dillon will be able to. Also you talk about time of posession. We had the ball for 40 minutes against the Pats. Who lead the league in Time of Posession?? Not New England, Pittsburgh did using ball control. Everyone... Please just listen to this... right click - save as
http://1007.com/audio/BradyBunch.mp3
http://1007.com/audio/BradyBunch.mp3
01-19-2005, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RealQuick
You still dont get it do you. the best running back in football didnt play that day.