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Old 12-03-2005, 12:34 PM
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/ls1tech-sponsor-feedback/417722-unresolved-john-pham-phamspeed-groundzero-transaction.html
Old 12-03-2005, 12:50 PM
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That sucks, hope they make this right for you!
Old 12-03-2005, 01:07 PM
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That sucks man. Do I smell a powerbomb coming
Old 12-03-2005, 01:54 PM
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Sorry to hear you pain.......

I hereby grant you memership into the "I got screwed by" "Insert hack shop her" "Club

I'm not the president but I am a member

I pushed my Z/28 out of the garage the other day, not much left of it

Going old school, next time you see me I'll have a distributor and carburator

Uncle Marc
Old 12-03-2005, 03:15 PM
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Sorry to hear this, Mike. I hope they make it right by refunding your money on the manifolds. I don't think you want them back after "a little judicious hammering" to make them "right". It seems that you have been very patient about this but you are doing the right thing by warning people about the problem .

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Old 12-03-2005, 04:44 PM
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sorry to hear you lost so much time and money... i hope it all gets resolved in a reasonable amount of time so you can be back up and running for next season.
Old 12-03-2005, 04:59 PM
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That guys excuse is such BS. To be blunt because I'm pissed off, he's too stupid to realize how damaging the whole situation is to his reputation and the company he works for. Youve got to wonder if he really knows how to fix it, so the idiot just leaves it there waiting for it to go away. All you want from a guy is to to be honest and own up to his mistakes like a man. The real shame of it is life is short and Mike wasted time which you can never get back.
Old 12-03-2005, 05:11 PM
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Left my 2c
Old 12-03-2005, 05:47 PM
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Yeah, that sucks Mike. But that is one Awesome set up Don is fabbing up for you. I hope you get your $ back.
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thanks everyone
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this should be a rather easy and rewarding case for you lawyer and you. i hope the justice system comes through and you come out with what you want.
Old 12-03-2005, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RemiSS2002
this should be a rather easy and rewarding case for you lawyer and you. i hope the justice system comes through and you come out with what you want.
Don't forget the labor I charge $500 an hour like the lawyer's
Old 12-03-2005, 09:04 PM
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A guy like this, who just pretends to be a businessman, and evidently is also a lousy fabricator and craftsman--needs to be taught a lesson. Lesson being: Someone's gotta drag his sorry *** into court....He probably will just go nipples up by filing bankruptcy, like most of these low-life liars do, but at least he won't be able to keep ******* people over by taking their $ up front for a product that is poorly engineered w/major fitment problems and other quality issues. The ****-poor excuses and lying to people continuously prove to me that this guy has no business building turbo systems, incl. headers, etc. Sounds like he should be maybe piping Frappachino machines at Dunkin' Donuts.... I hope you get at least, SOME of your $ back, or SOME satisfaction out of this mess, Mike. WJ

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Old 12-03-2005, 10:01 PM
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that BLOWS!! thats why I do all my own ****.. know that **** happens, and will happen.. now you guys see it first hand ..
Don... you got it.. do it all yourself !!
Old 12-03-2005, 11:39 PM
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mike i know all the hassel you have gone threw with that kit and the dragged out prommises and so called fixes and now its just being made 100% custom . hopefully they take care of the situation before laywers get involved . if not do what you have to do and bring them down hard. its complete BS that they even made a kit that wasnt checked out completly .
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That's probably why he stopped making the manifold kit and went to one where you use the stock manifolds. He probably knew it did not work before he sold it. Sucks.
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Good luck Mike. Unfortunately, based on post #13 from that thread, it doesn't look good. That is the absolute worst response Pham could have given...he already has your money...how the fu@k could your stuff be at the bottom of his priority list after you've already paid him?!?!...for a kit that doesn't work! I really hope he turns around his attitude...hopefully the mods will help. And your offer to meet him halfway is ridicules...why should you lose half your money for a kit that doesn't work? Not to mention losing use of the car for the whole summer. Good luck, I really hope Pham make's it right.
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wow i remember you telling me about this a few months ago! you have been so patient!! I can't believe this business had the ***** to be dicking you around for so long. I hope they pay in court for all this bull
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"Where's my ******' headers...AHHHHHHHHHHHHH..!!!!"

Old 12-06-2005, 08:41 AM
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That sucks. But, look at it this way.. most of the people that make huge power with turbo kits are all running a cuatom built setup to their needs.. you'll probably end up with a better setup that way. The lost $$, that sucks plain and simple, bad part is that the only way you could have even known was if you saw one installed on a car... and it's not like there's a ton if people running aorund with turbo setups on ls1 f ody cars anyway.

Good luck with the whole thing.



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