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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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Nowadays its not the brand that is important, it's the feed. Then tune the color up with a Avia disc or similiar. They all push red and are too bright. It's just like tuning a car.
best advice in here, i got my zenith looking top notch an better then the tv's in stores with the avia disk settings
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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best advice in here, i got my zenith looking top notch an better then the tv's in stores with the avia disk settings

True and not true all at the same time. The calibrations disks do make a huge differance. But brand DOES make a differance. You get what you pay for, as with anything else in life. Other wise we would all be driving 4 bangers for 1/2 the price of what an F body or vette would run us.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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Based on the size you are looking at the only plasma that would really work for you is a 37". Panasonic is pretty much the 2nd best plasma manufacturer behind Pioneer (who's smallest is a 42" with side mounted speakers). They make their own glass and have great quality control. They are also known for having some of the best colors and contrast, also the best color balance.

Sony's new Bravia XBR LCDs come in 32" and 40" which would fit your space. LCDs are brighter (which overcomes high natural lighting well), but as a result don't have very good black levels or contrast That leaves kind of a washed out look, as if the brightness setting was turned up too high. LCD however lasts about 5 years longer than plasma, dosen't fade as you use it, and dosen't have screen burn issues.

Any other specific questions let me know.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Akuma
Based on the size you are looking at the only plasma that would really work for you is a 37". Panasonic is pretty much the 2nd best plasma manufacturer behind Pioneer (who's smallest is a 42" with side mounted speakers). They make their own glass and have great quality control. They are also known for having some of the best colors and contrast, also the best color balance.

Sony's new Bravia XBR LCDs come in 32" and 40" which would fit your space. LCDs are brighter (which overcomes high natural lighting well), but as a result don't have very good black levels or contrast That leaves kind of a washed out look, as if the brightness setting was turned up too high. LCD however lasts about 5 years longer than plasma, dosen't fade as you use it, and dosen't have screen burn issues.

Any other specific questions let me know.
What I woulnt give for a pioneer 60" plasma. Alan, youre right there the best. too bad all my xtra money goes to the vette. What are they runnin 10-12k? But they still need the tuneup disc. Purevil i wish I'd have known you were going to go that far I would have given you my disc.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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Ya Brad...if they have one that fits....sony rocks! Also, go with LCD, NOT plasma. Plasma's need to be recharged (correct me if I'm wrong someone) as they fade or become not brite. Its expensive to recharge them. I know people may say the sonys are over priced, you do get a sick picture. I bought a sony flat screen for my room on the ship it amazes me how how clear it is every time i turn it on!
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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The plasma recharging is a myth. There is no maintenence on plasma or lcd flat panel TVs. The 61" Pioneer Elite is $10k regularly but I have it on sale now fir $8,500.
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Man, would you take a 42" Plasma in on trade?
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Old Dec 28, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Akuma
The plasma recharging is a myth. There is no maintenence on plasma or lcd flat panel TVs. The 61" Pioneer Elite is $10k regularly but I have it on sale now fir $8,500.
Uh oh. Alan, dont they have 3 models levels. Any no interest deals?
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Pioneer makes a commercial, standard, and Elite line. The commerial is used at casinos, airports, etc. They won't have the contrast ratios or screen refresh rates that their other two lines have...They are intended for still pictures. The standard line has the better glass, better video scalers, and a 1 year warrenty. The Elite line has better parts and stricter quality control. The screen has a anti-glare coating on it to cut back on reflections. It typically has a piano black finish called arushi (derived from a japanese art of some kind). It also has 2 year bumper to bumper warrenty. And yes we are offering 12 monthes with no interest if you just take the tv.. and no interest no payments if we ( Tweeter ) does a profesional install.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Akuma
The plasma recharging is a myth. There is no maintenence on plasma or lcd flat panel TVs. The 61" Pioneer Elite is $10k regularly but I have it on sale now fir $8,500.
Man people are crazy. Paying $8000+ for a tv just because they can hang on the wall. Then they try and figure out how to run the wires to it neatly. Then after paying to have them run through the wall (If they want it done right) you still have to find a place for your reciever and DVD player and speakers. I have seen so many setups with an expesive new TV's in some of these houses I go to and I just have to laugh. The TV is hung on the wall with wires just hanging from it goin to the Reciever and AV stand that sits against the wall anyway and they HAVE the space for a rear projection TV anyway.
Then they ask what kind of setup I have and I just have to bite mt tongue. If they knew that for that same $8000+ dollars they just spent on just there TV that I could go get a SONY Wega 60' SXRD for under 4K that is a TRUE HD DISPLAY and displays better than any plasma or LCD out there and redo my entire home theatre setup with a new reciever, speakers, wires (alot of people forget about those) and have $$$$ left over.........you know what they wouldnt care because I couldnt hang the TV on the wall lol.

Enough ranting though, I know Noyzee wants it above a fireplace so his options are limited. My advice is to make sure you read the specs, alot of these so called top of the line models are barley better then the bargain ones. Also decide what you are going to use the TV for since that is a bnig factor in your purchese. HD, DVDS, Games, Sports, Movies, all of them or whatever.

Good Luck.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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My advice is to make sure you read the specs, alot of these so called top of the line models are barley better then the bargain ones.
It's not always about specs. There are plenty of features that make a big differance. For example plasma panels are made from a aluminum or similar material. There is a gap inbetween each tiny pixel and that grey comes through, lowering the contrast ratio and black level in the process. Pioneer puts a high contrast black stripe in that gap, making the screen look natuaraly black rather than grey.

Panasonic knows that differant colors hit your eyes at differant rates, thats why we notice red more than blue for example. Alot of TVs exibit "Red Push" because all the pixels (red, green, and blue) are all the same size. Panasonic makes the red portion smaller then the green, and the green smaller than the blue. That makes the color balance even to our eyes. They are known for having some of the most natural colors out of any tv.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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If you are that picky about how your picture looks you shouldnt be looking at plasmas in the first place.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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DAMN alot of TV Buffs in here.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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I like the DLP's from what I have seen they have a crisper pic. I went out looking at projectors today I may go that way now that is a flat screen.
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Old Dec 29, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ATLHwyRacer
DAMN alot of TV Buffs in here.

Well, it is my occupation. hehe
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 9T9BlueTA
Man people are crazy. Paying $8000+ for a tv just because they can hang on the wall. Then they try and figure out how to run the wires to it neatly. Then after paying to have them run through the wall (If they want it done right) you still have to find a place for your reciever and DVD player and speakers. I have seen so many setups with an expesive new TV's in some of these houses I go to and I just have to laugh. The TV is hung on the wall with wires just hanging from it goin to the Reciever and AV stand that sits against the wall anyway and they HAVE the space for a rear projection TV anyway.
Then they ask what kind of setup I have and I just have to bite mt tongue. If they knew that for that same $8000+ dollars they just spent on just there TV that I could go get a SONY Wega 60' SXRD for under 4K that is a TRUE HD DISPLAY and displays better than any plasma or LCD out there and redo my entire home theatre setup with a new reciever, speakers, wires (alot of people forget about those) and have $$$$ left over.........you know what they wouldnt care because I couldnt hang the TV on the wall lol.

Enough ranting though, I know Noyzee wants it above a fireplace so his options are limited. My advice is to make sure you read the specs, alot of these so called top of the line models are barley better then the bargain ones. Also decide what you are going to use the TV for since that is a bnig factor in your purchese. HD, DVDS, Games, Sports, Movies, all of them or whatever.

Good Luck.
Well youre right IMHO about Rear proj being a good value. Everyones pushing the thinner sets. For the picture, reliability and for the money they cant be beat. They have been around a long time and have proven themselves. As I said before it's the feed. Nothing will look great without a HD feed. As for some people being crazy, some people look at our cars and the dollars we spend and say were nuts too. It's just a ? of the passion youre into. BTW whats your audio setup?
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BrentC5
As for some people being crazy, some people look at our cars and the dollars we spend and say were nuts too. It's just a ? of the passion youre into.
I'll give you that even though its kind of a stretch. My setup is old but still gets the job done.
TV:Hitachi 43FDX (not a wide screen but I got it 5 or 6 years ago?)
To be replaced by a 50' Sony SXRD when PS3 comes out, unless something better does.
Reciever is a Sony ES from a couple years ago. (great reciever that if you go to the right online store can be had for $100 less than anywhere else)
Infinty (Kappa's I think) Front speakers and center channel. Had these for a long time too. The rears are also infinty quadrapoles (sp?). Got them at a great price and had them forever also.
The oldest part of the system is my Good old advent 8' subwoofer. Funny thing is I have tried to replace it several times with a few other ones 10' and higher with more power and such but they dont sound as good. I tried duplicating the same firing direction and trying subs that fired differently with no luck. They would sound great for DD movies and such but couldnt get the video games right. The Advent does both really good without any adjustments.

The best thing is the room though. When I moved into my house a few years ago I built the theatre in the basement. Measured everything out,ran dedicated electric, ran all the audio wires in the walls and completely insulated and sound deadened it so I can play games or blast movies all night with the wife sleeping upsairs and none the wiser.

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The SONY Wega SXRD is a bad *** set, 1920 x 1080 . Thats the one I would get right now.

I went TV shopping with my old man a few month ago and we got a Samsung DLP 50", which at the time I think was one of the best sets there.

I'm not a plasma fan, yet. But unless your going to spend big bucks your TV is only going to run at 720i. Remember if you want true high def DVD's you need to buy one of those $1000 upconverting dvd players too.

Your other option, something like the 34" Sony XBR CRT. It weighs 200lbs and is only 34" but the picture is better than anything else out there. It is used as the best reference tv to display native 1080i and the colors/black levels are perfect.
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Old Dec 30, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DannoWS6
Remember if you want true high def DVD's you need to buy one of those $1000 upconverting dvd players too.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1118839101053

$142

Not the right way of doing it though IMO. When the next gen DVD's come out in the spring they will contain the actual info instead of upconverting it........did I say that right?
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Originally Posted by 9T9BlueTA
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1118839101053

$142

Not the right way of doing it though IMO. When the next gen DVD's come out in the spring they will contain the actual info instead of upconverting it........did I say that right?

Current DVD's are like at 480 res. It's gonna suck if you don't have a high def TV when the HDDVD's come out, because of course everybody is gonna want high def and not spend money on the regular ones.

My friend just got some $800 DVD player. I thought they were more than that. I'll have to find out what he got.
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