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Old May 19, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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I recently had comp 918 springs put in with my cam 232/234 595/598 112lsa what do you guys make of these springs? I thought pretty highly of them which is why I got them, but I was interested in your opinions. Thanks Ben
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Old May 19, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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Let me guess, something happend??

I had them on my LT1 car, they worked fine, its just that the installed spring height had to be done because the cam was a 224/224 @ 605/605 on a 110 and it was VERY close to coil bind and you couldnt just assume.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Truthfully, I would of never used 918's with that Cam. Yes,they are rated for it but we only use them up to .580 lift. P/V is probly .100 on that Cam and a good over rev with probly eye lash the pistons.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 10:33 PM
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Truthfully, I would of never used 918's with that Cam. Yes,they are rated for it but we only use them up to .580 lift. P/V is probly .100 on that Cam and a good over rev with probly eye lash the pistons.
Thats what I've been told, nothing happened to my car I was just curious. Others have said go with patriot gold dual springs however there are some stories about them also. Not all springs are perfect. In fact some places use the 918's on a cam with 620 lift with no problems. Just some people with bad experiances have me thinking should I change them out. But I wanted to get your guy's take on this also.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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I think their advertised to use a max lift of around .580
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they should be fine..... but I'd have them pressure tested after say 8 to 10 thousland miles to make sure they are still o.k. A cam like you went with they should be o.k.... but after abotu 10K I'd check the springs to make sure they are still strong enough. If ya see any getting weak, then ya know what needs to eb done, another set, same thing or a little stiffer.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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Using 918's in my car but it's just a stock LS1.... heads, bottom end, you know.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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They should be fine but thats cutting it kinda close
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Old May 20, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by z28bryan
I think their advertised to use a max lift of around .580
From what I read their advertised max is .600 which is still cutting it close, I was thinking about changing them out before I hit 10k miles with this cam setup
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If you're that worried about it then change them out sooner then later... you are running an auto so the over-rev is less of an issue then with a stick car... but if it's a piece of mind you're after then do it as soon as you can IMO.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
If you're that worried about it then change them out sooner then later... you are running an auto so the over-rev is less of an issue then with a stick car... but if it's a piece of mind you're after then do it as soon as you can IMO.
Actually an auto holds high rpm alot longer.
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holds it yes, but the overrev situation isn't as much a threat, as long as the tranny's working right.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
holds it yes, but the overrev situation isn't as much a threat, as long as the tranny's working right.
There is much much less threat of a mechanical over-rev with an auto trans. I've been there. Ever seen what happens to stock LS1 pushrods at 7k?
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hit a couple pistons there did ya
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the fact is no matter how good the spring is, if your running an aggressive spec'ed cam or the lobes ramp really quickly its going to hammer the springs, eventually even the best have to be swapped out, so for now, make a mental note to do a spring swap during the off season and depending on how close to 10-12k you are.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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id be a little leary with the 918's and that lift not to mention im sure its aggressive ramp rate. even if its just peace of mind id swap them for a good dual spring . reason being if one does let go do you really wanna learn the hard way
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Ive dropped a valve on my LT1, it was comp cam 987 springs, really beefy ones, the locks cam out, luckily, the valve stayed, cost over 300 to fix, the piston got magnafluxed and was fine. I lucked out.
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
hit a couple pistons there did ya
Yes unfortunately...
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Old May 21, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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ok then what springs would you guys recomend with that size lift? (.595/.598)
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Either call the company that ground you the cam, looks like HPE, ask what they recommend, I assume they give you what was expected with the cam, unless you bought everything seperate.

OR call eastside and see what they think and buy the stuff through them, either way you should be able to get a good idea.

I mean the cam is in there, it works, its not dropping valves, its making power, so no need to rush and kill yourself for doing it.
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