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Old May 2, 2008 | 07:35 AM
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Default Snell 95 helbets at LVD.....

I heard last night that Snell 95 helmets will NOT get you through tech at LVD for the '08 season. Seems that IHRA is accepting them at NED, but the NHRA sanction at Lebanon Valley won't accept the Snell 95 model helmets this year. Can anyone add to this? WJ (oops, sorry for the mis-spell in heading.)
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Old May 2, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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I dont know about the rules for 08 but they have never even looked at my helmet, albeit I only go for T&T or track days.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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I know that they will not accept a SN95 helmet, buddy of mine had that problem last season, so I'm sure they aren't allowed this year.

For those that aren't aware, nhra changed the rule this year so that anything that is faster then 9.99 must have a full faced helmet as well, so if you have an open face one like I did, you're not using that for your single digit car, that I have confirmed with LVD's tech already when I called and asked about lic. runs.

So, a 495 dollar helmet got ordered last week, should ship to me on the 15th of this month.

Safety first guys
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Old May 2, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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what ya do is what i do you bring your helmut and tell the tech guy you are going to rent one of theirs and your fine
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Old May 2, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Does LVD rent?

Anyways I thought the snell rating was only good for 10 years anyways, so they should've stopped accepting a 95 after the '05 racing season?
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Old May 2, 2008 | 12:29 PM
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Last yr. LVD didn't always enforce the rule. Our CMDR president was told that the rule WILL be enforced this yr....chef, who wants to rent a possibly bug-infested helmet to get around a safety rule??? WJ
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Old May 2, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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Last yr. LVD didn't always enforce the rule. Our CMDR president was told that the rule WILL be enforced this yr....chef, who wants to rent a possibly bug-infested helmet to get around a safety rule??? WJ
the tech guy used to look at my helmut and say with a grin "your gonna rent a helmut right" i say oh of course
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Old May 2, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by thechef
the tech guy used to look at my helmut and say with a grin "your gonna rent a helmut right" i say oh of course
all tech guys should be like that
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Old May 2, 2008 | 01:21 PM
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LVD has always had a pretty loose tech-in procedure, especially if it's a slow day, they pretty much used to let most anything slide to get the entry $, but if they decide to stiffen things up a bit for tech, it'd be a bitch to drive all the way up there to race and get shut down cause your helmet is out of date. I never knew they rented helmets....knew they sold them (beauties one season or more) Anyway, only passing on what I was told...like they say, "If you've got a $5 head, go out and buy a $5 helmet." WJ
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Old May 2, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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"Do I need a helmet, and if so, what kind?
A helmet is required for the driver of any car or truck running 13.99 seconds or quicker in the quarter mile, and for the rider of any motorcycle. Most drivers can use a helmet meeting SNELL K98, M2000, SA2000, M2005, or SA2005 specifications. Professional category and some alcohol burning vehicles require an SA rated helmet. It is important to note that the helmet rating must be designated on a tag INSIDE the helmet, or sewn to one of the helmet straps. The designation stenciled on the exterior of the helmet is insufficient for NHRA technical inspection. Also, some tracks require a helmet on ALL drivers, so check in advance."

In 07 the tech guy at NED didn't like my circa 1982 Bell helmet. He said he might let it go if it were at least Snell 95 but technically Snell 95 is not even accepted by NHRA.

He told me to keep it slower than 14 seconds. My first pass was 12.6, but no one said a word and I made a bunch more passes. FWIW I did finally buy a new brain bucket.
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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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i asked the tech at ned this year if they would still accept snell 95 and they said they would. doesnt matter much to me as mines snell 05 but a few friends have 95's and while i was there i figured id ask so they dont go all the way up and are not allowed to run.
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New one I just bought, SA05 approved, good until 2017. Helmet's are good for 12 years, and every 5 years they come out with a new helmet spec. This was the 2005 spec, so it's good until 2017. AT least I'll get 9 years of use befre the spec is up and will need to replace it.

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Old May 2, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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the snell m2000 go out of date in 2012
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Old May 2, 2008 | 03:31 PM
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Correct
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
i asked the tech at ned this year if they would still accept snell 95 and they said they would. doesnt matter much to me as mines snell 05 but a few friends have 95's and while i was there i figured id ask so they dont go all the way up and are not allowed to run.
As I said, IHRA at NED is still letting Snell '95 helmets go. NHRA tracks, i.e. Lebanon Valley Dragway in NY wants the latest Snell-approved helmets. We already said this in the 1st post......hello?......WJ
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I don't understand ned's tech guys, they will bust your ***** about some ****, but let out of date helmet's go.... they desperately need to get someone up there to start doing tech that has a clue, becuase if they're letting old helmet's go there's a real problem, that helmet isTHE most important safety device the driver has!
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Originally Posted by JL ws-6
I don't understand ned's tech guys, they will bust your ***** about some ****, but let out of date helmet's go.... they desperately need to get someone up there to start doing tech that has a clue, becuase if they're letting old helmet's go there's a real problem, that helmet isTHE most important safety device the driver has!
NED's tech is WAY better than LVD, which usually has next to none. IHRA is making the helmet laws at NED, not their tech crew. ....just as NHRA is making the helmet call at LVD, not the tech people, who are just enforcing the rule.... It's about time IHRA and NHRA get together and make certain rules the same for both organizations, rather than complicate things for people who run both tracks w/different sanctions. There's been talk for the past few yrs. of NED going NHRA anyway, but I believe the stands at NH are too close to the track for NHRA rules.... WJ
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I dunno the guys at lvd always look at the car on the trailer, ask what it runs, then when I tell them they say "woah lemme look at that" and then proceed to look under the hood, ask me to demonstrate that it won't start in gear, look at the seatbelts, axles, look under the car for the ds loop, look at my helmet and fire jacket, ask if it has a tranny shield on it, they seem to do a pretty good job. I'll agree in the past it has been a joke for the mostpart, but they seem to be pretty through with me, at least after I tell them what the car runs. But, I'm not trying to hide anything either.
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Old May 3, 2008 | 10:03 AM
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I went to LVD several times before anyone even looked under my hood or asked what I run. One time I went with a guy with an LS2 GTO and he ran mid-low 13s all night without a helmet and nobody said anything.
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There's always stories like that I hear too. I've seen a guy clocking off 11.1x runs with no rollbar, no harness nothing up at ned as well, nitrous ls1 camaro with a cam and noone said anything to him there, there's always someone that gets away with it.

Is it good? No. Will it happen everywhere at some level? Yes, unfortunately.
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