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07-13-2007, 06:28 PM
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Will,
I say start with the rear first. As stated before, get together with all the great folks at the next meet and I am sure you will find a way to get to your goals.
I say start with the rear first. As stated before, get together with all the great folks at the next meet and I am sure you will find a way to get to your goals.
07-13-2007, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bluenyghthawk
coming off wonderwood i believe unless theres another lovely sound red wagon wheel vette by me
07-13-2007, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurospec2
prices go way up for parts when you start talking tranny parts and gears on vettes compared to fbods jacob, remember our transmission is in the back of the car 
the biggest cost for him is starting with 2.73 gears he cannot simply swap ring and pinions, he has to swap the entire rear gear carrier, big money there.
the biggest cost for him is starting with 2.73 gears he cannot simply swap ring and pinions, he has to swap the entire rear gear carrier, big money there.
New z06 3.42 with shot peened gears is $1100
Built DTE 3.42 (or any other ratio) with hardened output shaft is $1700. If I buy a rear I'm going this route. This car will eventually have at least 600rwhp. I don't want to break a shaft. I guess I could find out how much it would cost later to add the hardened shaft, and maybe go with a normal unit to save $$$ while I am still low on power.
07-13-2007, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurospec2
i thought you had dyno tune do your tune, they didnt put it on the dyno?
I went to dynotune because my used bracket off a wrecked car was slightly misaligned, shredded a layer off the belt after a week. Still not totally right, but I bought the ECS bracket/tensioner setup. Just having trouble getting free time to drive down and get it installed (free).
07-13-2007, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Doc
Will,
I say start with the rear first. As stated before, get together with all the great folks at the next meet and I am sure you will find a way to get to your goals.
I say start with the rear first. As stated before, get together with all the great folks at the next meet and I am sure you will find a way to get to your goals.
I know the formula for a blown a4 vette to get into the 9s and trap that high (650-700rwhp, 3.42, ss3600 stall combo run by quite a few of the procharger/paxton guys at corvetteforum), and I'm plannning on going a little lower on power and smaller on the stall and settle for a 10 sec. capable car in the end. 3200 rpm stall at most, 600ish rwhp at most. So as long as my car can reach 140mph I'll be happy and wouldn't mind more aggressive gears than 3.42 to have a little low speed fun. Of course anything higher than 3.42 forces me to spend the extra $$$ for a DTE rear.
Like I've said before, I'm no expert. I just aim and press the gas. Keep the advice coming guys.
07-13-2007, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by will82
I know the formula for a blown a4 vette to get into the 9s and trap that high (650-700rwhp, 3.42, ss3600 stall combo run by quite a few of the procharger/paxton guys at corvetteforum),
1) More low end fun
2) Spend the extra jack and "forgetabbout" the rearend issue all together.
You are at a point in the project where I am sure you really just want to address the rear end issue once and for all. Compromising now will only be rolling the dice later on, probably at a point when you don't want to and it will be a major setback for other mods.
In the meantime why not get track times on it now? It's kinda like taking lots of pictures of your kids as they grow up. Before you know it, you'll be in the 10's wondering where your little baby went, all grown up.
07-14-2007, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by will82
I've been sort of leaning this way. The stall may be more effective, but with out gears would feel sloppy and also would be more dangerous to my stock a4. What do you think between 3.42 3.73 3.90 4.10??? Stephen's car has around 700rwhp and he told me his 3.90 are limiting him to 160mph. If my car ever gets where I want it to be, the highest trap speeds in the 1/4 mile would be in the 135-140mph range.
I know the formula for a blown a4 vette to get into the 9s and trap that high (650-700rwhp, 3.42, ss3600 stall combo run by quite a few of the procharger/paxton guys at corvetteforum), and I'm plannning on going a little lower on power and smaller on the stall and settle for a 10 sec. capable car in the end. 3200 rpm stall at most, 600ish rwhp at most. So as long as my car can reach 140mph I'll be happy and wouldn't mind more aggressive gears than 3.42 to have a little low speed fun. Of course anything higher than 3.42 forces me to spend the extra $$$ for a DTE rear.
Like I've said before, I'm no expert. I just aim and press the gas. Keep the advice coming guys.
I know the formula for a blown a4 vette to get into the 9s and trap that high (650-700rwhp, 3.42, ss3600 stall combo run by quite a few of the procharger/paxton guys at corvetteforum), and I'm plannning on going a little lower on power and smaller on the stall and settle for a 10 sec. capable car in the end. 3200 rpm stall at most, 600ish rwhp at most. So as long as my car can reach 140mph I'll be happy and wouldn't mind more aggressive gears than 3.42 to have a little low speed fun. Of course anything higher than 3.42 forces me to spend the extra $$$ for a DTE rear.
Like I've said before, I'm no expert. I just aim and press the gas. Keep the advice coming guys.
160 mph limited by gears, do you honestly want to go faster then that on the street? i know i dont lol
get that rear and stall worked out and a good tune and i think youd be very very happy.
i know of England Green well enough, i have no experience working with him of course, but when he told me he charged 3k for a cam + installation i decided i coudnt do business with him
07-14-2007, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FASTERthanYOU
what...600hp to get an f-body into the 10's?
430-450 also works for f-bods into the 10's, but to do it with that little power you need to have Everything else dialed in perfectly, and a very good driver same as the vettes.
07-14-2007, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Eurospec2
if your short term goal is 10's then you have the power now to do it, general rule is 430-450 RWHP is all it takes to get a C5 in the 10's (with appropriate traction and suspension/driver).
160 mph limited by gears, do you honestly want to go faster then that on the street? i know i dont lol
get that rear and stall worked out and a good tune and i think youd be very very happy.
i know of England Green well enough, i have no experience working with him of course, but when he told me he charged 3k for a cam + installation i decided i coudnt do business with him
160 mph limited by gears, do you honestly want to go faster then that on the street? i know i dont lol
get that rear and stall worked out and a good tune and i think youd be very very happy.
i know of England Green well enough, i have no experience working with him of course, but when he told me he charged 3k for a cam + installation i decided i coudnt do business with him
He isn't the cheapest, I guess I got the friends/family deal.
Also we did this while he still had his IT job and didn't have a shop to pay for. As far as tens go, with my current power and an a4 I'd have to go bigger than I want on the converter. Blown a4 guys with my power are hitting mid - low 11s with 3.42 gears and 2800-3000rpm stalls. Tens is just a long term end point. I want to stay small on the converter, 3000-3200rpm. And the power to make up for that is only a pulley swap + meth away.
07-14-2007, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by staringback05
did one of those ugly hoe's throw beer on you?....just fyi...one more advantage of having worked for the clay SO....i know half those ***** have nasty records 
07-14-2007, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by staringback05
typical of that place....i like ale house better over there...never had any issues...they have better beer to, and food....hooters is over priced imo...damn cheese steaks like 9 bucks...it aint that good....
