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Old 12-17-2007, 08:52 PM
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what was your torque?
Old 12-18-2007, 10:39 AM
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Wow, that's an amazing gain, and through cats, as well. I'm gonna need to research the 1 7/8" headers vs the 1 3/4". I'm sure it's been a big debate for some time and it probably depends on the setup, but with a mild h/c setup like mine, I would imagine swapping to 1 7/8" definitely wouldn't hurt, and could possibly gain enough to make it worth (or it might gain nothing...).
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Well, the numbers in my sig are actual uncorrected numbers. SAE corrected numbers were, of course, a little lower, but, 'hey' it pulled the numbers and I'll leave it at that.

The true SAE Corrected gains stand at +25 RWHP / +17 RWTQ. On one run, the SAE corrected RWHP was actually +28 RWHP.
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a guy in hot rod magazine did a report on how ls1s actually make more power with headers and cats rather than an off road y-pipe strait to a muffler
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I know back many years ago people used to say that you had to have a certain amount of back-pressure to make your best power. A lot of folks nowadays write it off as a falicy or give scientific reasons as to why more air-in-air-out the better. My personal opinion is that the latter is true to a great degree, but, I do believe just a slight amount of back-pressure is a good thing good. Whatever the case, I'm an old-school guy whose brain is permanenetly warped and unchangeable, so, this just my thought on the matter ... just not a scientific kinda' guy. Makes sense to me, brother.
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Here are a few pics after the install to see how well the 1 7/8" tubes, cats and Y-pipe clear everything. The headers are a bit tight at the K-member, but does not hit. Enjoy.

Mike Norris
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:19 PM
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damn mike that looks sweet. when i get the money(which may be soon) im def giving you a call.
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Originally Posted by Mike Norris
Here are a few pics after the install to see how well the 1 7/8" tubes, cats and Y-pipe clear everything. The headers are a bit tight at the K-member, but does not hit. Enjoy.

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Nice pics Mike. I removed the front Strano bar and deep set the LCA's in the relo brackets, today. Took her out for a drive ... traction was incredible ... the power was phenomenal.

While I was under the car, I checked every place possible that could be an issue. There wasn't a rub mark anywhere. The headers and catted Y don't bang, thump, vibrate, or rub anywhere at all. Class 'A' perfect installation Mike, thanks. Thanks to American Racing, as well. They made these things to fit like a glove.

Should be easily in the 11's now even with my sorry a$$ drag racing skills (lack thereof). With practice and good weather, this thing feels like it's good for the lower of an 11-second run if I had MT DR's on it ... coming next month.

I'll post up this week when I get back from the track.
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jeb, how much was did that set up cost out the door. pm me w/ the answer if you have to. i want that bad on my ride. that job looks awsome. what muffler did you go with. when i m redy for mine to get done, im going w mike
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Originally Posted by bobodog
jeb, how much was did that set up cost out the door. pm me w/ the answer if you have to. i want that bad on my ride. that job looks awsome. what muffler did you go with. when i m redy for mine to get done, im going w mike

You have a PM! Oh yeah, I forgot to mention in the PM, I have a Magnaflow catback ... very happy with it. I used to have the Borla adjustable and it was nice, but, I didn't like the fact that when you use the plates, in the winter, it only smogs out of one side. And the more open of a plate I used, it was louder. Along with the loudness (unfortunately) came more rasp.

The Magnaflow sounds real good with the ARH's and guess who recommended the Magnaflow catback? Initials are M.N. LOL!




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Old 12-18-2007, 07:12 PM
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pm'd you back. (b4 i read you last thread)
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Pm'd to your PM ... lol!
Old 12-19-2007, 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Norris
Here are a few pics after the install to see how well the 1 7/8" tubes, cats and Y-pipe clear everything. The headers are a bit tight at the K-member, but does not hit. Enjoy.

Mike Norris
That's pretty work! .. I'm sold
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Yeah, LS1Freak had a set of 1 3/4" AR's installed. I saw his and just had to have a set installed. Will be going to the track tonight at Bithlo, so, we'll see how the car performs at the track. Hopefully, I won't be disappointed ... on Nitto's so I'll be launching easy to get out of the hole. But, in January, I'll be back on MT Street DR's.
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i might be there with zacks mustang
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... hope you can make it down Josh ... and Zack.
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Thanks for all the kind words folks. Jack, I am glad everything is good with your world and hopefully the track will treat you well.

bobodog, just let me know and I will get a set here with your name on them for sure.

For folks looking to get just headers shipped to you, PM me and I will get you some shipped prices. Thanks again.

Mike Norris
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thanks mike i WILL let you know
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Well, just got back from the track :

1st run ... not a hard launch at all. Cut a 1.80 60' on the Nitto's. My windshield fogged over to the point I couldn't see, so ,I had to let out of it a little just before hitting the traps. Managed to still pull off a 12.1 flat, which is 1/10th better tonight with Nitto 275 DR's than I got last time out with the 315 MT Street DR's out back. And I gained 2+ mph. As stated, this was with me letting off before I hit the traps, so, it's got more in it.

11's should be no problem Friday night. The car is definitely a lot stronger now. January, I'm coming back out with MT Street DR's on the rears ... should be able to cut a 1.6x 60' ft consistently ... may even surprise myself with a few 1.5x 60' times.

2nd run ... left lane got a little oil on the track and caused me to spin all the way through 1st and 2nd. Once it finally bit, it pulled down hard and I still got the same mph as the 1st run.

Thanks again, Mike!
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That windshield fogging crap pisses me off so bad every time I go to the track!


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