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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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Thinking about doing a 418 iron block half filled, prob with a gt42r since I'm
Getting it so cheap. Prob around 9.5.1 compression, l92 heads. I have a
248/258 .649/649 109 lsa cam but don't think it will work. Not really looking for a street car. Anyones opinon is welcome on how well will this setup work.
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The r is good to around 850 horsepower, they make another one that is good to a thousand (GT42RS), and should work decent. What kind of rwhp are you realistically shooting for?
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 01:35 PM
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The cam will not work the best and the 42's turbine wheel housing combo will not be ideal if you are looking to make big power.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKSSLSX
Thinking about doing a 418 iron block half filled, prob with a gt42r since I'm
Getting it so cheap. Prob around 9.5.1 compression, l92 heads. I have a
248/258 .649/649 109 lsa cam but don't think it will work. Not really looking for a street car. Anyones opinon is welcome on how well will this setup work.

A GT42 is only a 74mm turbo. Its going to have a hard time keeping up with a 418ci LS based motor. You need to be running an 88mm at least. Run it on low boost, and it will spool good and make big power on pump gas.
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Rwhp I would like to be in the 950-1000 range, that mite be later. The exh housing is a 1.01 I beleave. Getting it for 500 brand new, and I know the cam isn't ideal. Have it laying around, and though I would see how bad it would be. Still something I'm putting together on paper sort of speak.
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Eeesh man, that's not gonna cut it for 950-1000rwhp. You'll need at LEAST an 88, maybe 91 or 95mm turbo for that kind of power efficiently.
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Wow like mentioned above....88 minimum man for a big motor like that. I would suggest a GT5018. We have used these on street car builds for some customers with big motors with great results.
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I already know that i would need a t88 or bigger, Just wanted to see what opinons would be about that turbo. Since im getting the turbo for giving out a loan, figured why not put it to some use.

Now how about a cam, hyd or solid and specs.
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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What the others said.

The cid, heads, and cam are for a 1500 hp turbo build, but the turbo is only good for a thousand.
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Take the turbo and sell it for a profit and apply it to the larger one.
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The cam you've got is pretty good sized, and a way low LSA, not the best for turbo, but will work for a drag setup. I'd stick with something in the upper 230's or low 240's @ .050 on a 112 at the very least, preferribly up around 114-115.
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I think at least 112 for a turbo LS motor. The GT42 is gonna be way small for this motor to make that much HP. The GT47-88 we were running was probably borderline that kinda power at the crank and that was on a smaller motor. (364") I dont think it would have kept up to a 418.
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ok gt42 not an option, and yes stated before drag only. what turbo is best for the build, and not going to cost me the same as buying a new car!
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GT5018 or one of Garrett's thumper's. Their GT-91 is a killer piece with an F-trim and 1.0A/R.
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Now with that turbo and that set-up, what hp levels you think i would be at?
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Well over 1000rwhp!
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Just wondering, but what about twin 42's? Just throwing something out there, couldn't hurt to ask.
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Never mind, i think twin turbos with a 1.01 would be kinda hard.

One of those type and not really think about it ? days.

Unless it's doable.
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I think a 418 could do twin 76s
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Old Dec 19, 2008 | 01:59 AM
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Just something i figure i would throw out there and watch someone say, "Are you crazy".

But def going single unless i want to go twins, but the price would have to be at the right price.

Unless one of you venders out there have good prices for some twins at a very good price, I'll give it some thought!
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