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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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my setup is a built 347 with a 76mm turbo but i need a trans that will be street friendly. but also hold the power of about 800hp. any suggestions.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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I using a 4l80e with a standalone computer for shifting very nice, but dont expect big hp #s but do expect great track numbers. Example Mighyty mouse 8.73 on 17s. Some people think autos are cheating. I call it safety at that power level.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:10 PM
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I've always used well-built TH350/400s on my FI applications. They're relatively easy to work on yourself and cheap enough to find a replacement if you blow it.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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TH350 with a billet sprag has made it 5 or so years, most of it behind 700 rwhp, with no failures. Use a tall gear, like 2.50 - 3.00 for highway driveability. Expect to lose 150 rwhp from a comparable M6, but run the same mph but quicker et at the track.
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with 300 gears wouldnt it be blowen through the converter the whole time. i was thinkin bout a th400 w a trans break but they dont have lock up converters so id be blowin thriugh the converter on the top side and on the hwy isnt that harsh on the trans
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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with 300 gears wouldnt it be blowen through the converter the whole time. i was thinkin bout a th400 w a trans break but they dont have lock up converters so id be blowin thriugh the converter on the top side and on the hwy isnt that harsh on the trans
A proper turbo converter will be pretty tight. With 1000 ft-lb of torque, it has to be tight to keep the stall speed around 4000 rpm. I'm running a 10.5" converter for that reason.
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Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 2nd go round
my setup is a built 347 with a 76mm turbo but i need a trans that will be street friendly. but also hold the power of about 800hp. any suggestions.
Sounds like a good set-up, if you want it to be street friendly and keep your overdrive, FLT makes some pretty amazing built 4L60E's that have been proven to run 9's and better. If not another good option for boost TH400 as stated above but it will not be as street friendly with no overdrive. Zombie had a 2.75 gear installed in his and he claims excellent street and highway manors on his 370ci rearmount St-80 set-up.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 2nd go round
my setup is a built 347 with a 76mm turbo but i need a trans that will be street friendly. but also hold the power of about 800hp. any suggestions.

Depends on what your opinion of street friendly is and what your budget is like.

If you dont mind bad gas mileage and turning some rpm's on the expressway then go th400.

If you want something more streetable and money is tight I would do a 4l60e from a proven company. If you have some money to spare do a 4l80e and never look back.
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 04:43 AM
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i use a level 4 4l80e from FLT behind my setup in sig.Planning to add a trans brake this year to build some boost off the line
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 05:49 AM
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I second the FLT 4L80E
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4L80E! Strength of 400 with an OD. The more power you make, the better the parts have to be to hold up to that power, so it won't be cheap! A 4L60E would be on the ragged edge, where a 4L80E is right at home.
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Originally Posted by black98ws6ta
If you dont mind bad gas mileage and turning some rpm's on the expressway then go th400.
So is 20+ MPG and turning 2400 RPMs at 70MPH with a TH400 and a 3600 RPM stall considered good. That is what my car is doing I'm the odd man out though since very few are willing to try my crazy ideas.

I'm a cheap bastard though which is why I tried my setup (which works very well to everyones surprise). The other solution would be a 4L80 if you have the $$$.
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Originally Posted by Zombie
So is 20+ MPG and turning 2400 RPMs at 70MPH with a TH400 and a 3600 RPM stall considered good. That is what my car is doing I'm the odd man out though since very few are willing to try my crazy ideas.

I'm a cheap bastard though which is why I tried my setup (which works very well to everyones surprise). The other solution would be a 4L80 if you have the $$$.


dang 20 plus mpg is great to me im gona be running a 28 tall tire not sure what your running but your setup would be nice. unforchanantly im not rich so the th400 will be my rought. what converter is that and what gears?
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 382ssz28
4L80E! Strength of 400 with an OD. The more power you make, the better the parts have to be to hold up to that power, so it won't be cheap! A 4L60E would be on the ragged edge, where a 4L80E is right at home.

scared of a 4l60e my buddy had to rebuild his bout once every 3 months with 400hp camaro. and the 4l80e would cost me bout five grand wouldnt it?
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Originally Posted by 2nd go round
dang 20 plus mpg is great to me im gona be running a 28 tall tire not sure what your running but your setup would be nice. unforchanantly im not rich so the th400 will be my rought. what converter is that and what gears?
It's a PTC converter that Dusty Bradford spec'd out for my setup. It stalls around 3600 but is nice and tight for normal driving. I'm running 28" tires with 2.75 rear gears, I cross the traps at 6900 in 2nd gear. If you do a setup like this with a transbrake, i'd have the tranny builder keep the 2nd gear intermediate band for safety incase you forget to shift to 3rd after a pass. Dont' want the drum popping out on you.
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Originally Posted by Zombie
It's a PTC converter that Dusty Bradford spec'd out for my setup. It stalls around 3600 but is nice and tight for normal driving. I'm running 28" tires with 2.75 rear gears, I cross the traps at 6900 in 2nd gear. If you do a setup like this with a transbrake, i'd have the tranny builder keep the 2nd gear intermediate band for safety incase you forget to shift to 3rd after a pass. Dont' want the drum popping out on you.


thanks man been alot of help
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Originally Posted by 2nd go round
scared of a 4l60e my buddy had to rebuild his bout once every 3 months with 400hp camaro. and the 4l80e would cost me bout five grand wouldnt it?
I've been building trannies for over 30 years, and I've NEVER had a 4L80E cost that much!! I hope your including the converter. A good converter can cost $850.00-$1800.00 for what your asking for. A good 4L80E can be done for $1800.00-$4000.00, if you want to get nuts. At 800rwhp, you should have $3500.00-$4200.00 into your setup, (trans and conv), that should last for years with proper maintenance and driving. If I had to sell my 4L75E with the Vig converter, it would be around $3500.00-$3800.00 and I'm going to put 725-740rwhp this spring and hope the thing lasts all season, (the car and myself is 4231lbs, I'm 267lbs). It has been working at the 675rwhp for 3 summers. I'm not going to chop the floor for the 4L80E as I can fix the 4L75E in a day. If you are going to have 800HP than the price of the trans should not be an issue. "If you want to play, than you have to pay!"
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