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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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I just hooked up my boost gauge and let me tell you.... little disappointed. I'm only pulling around 4# on my D1sc. I hooked up the line from the brake booster if that makes a difference. It seems to almost always be in the vaccum side until it's full throttle and around 4k. Is this right? Part of me says that's about right but it still seems on the low side. I've got about 4 miles on the kit and I'm thinking pulley swap. I'm messed up.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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On a side note, I thought it would be way faster then it is.
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what size pulley do you have on the blower

I have 3.4" and I see 15-16psi
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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What ever was stock. I have it written down at home.
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there is no stock pulley, you select a pulley size when you buy kit......post up what size pulley you have and then we can help you.....have you checked for boost leaks, or belt dust?
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Originally Posted by JASON11WS6
I just hooked up my boost gauge and let me tell you.... little disappointed. I'm only pulling around 4# on my D1sc. I hooked up the line from the brake booster if that makes a difference. It seems to almost always be in the vaccum side until it's full throttle and around 4k. Is this right? Part of me says that's about right but it still seems on the low side. I've got about 4 miles on the kit and I'm thinking pulley swap. I'm messed up.
It will be on the vacuum side till WOT then it makes boost.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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probably the 4.62, look on the pulley its stamped on it, im running the 4.62 and i hit 4.5-5 psi.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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how much are you hitting at 6k? its tuned right?
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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What elevation are you at?? that is a big consideration. Procharger messed up when they sent me mine. i made sure to give the info that i wanted to see 8 lbs at my elevation (5200 ft). the sent me the 4.25 pulley and i was only at 5-6lbs. I now have the 4 inch and I am now seeing about 8lbs.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 05:44 AM
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How much boost the blower can produce depends on many variables.
* Cubic inch. The larger the engine the less boost it will make with a supercharger.
* Headers and exhaust. A better flowing system will produce less boost, requires a smaller pulley to regain the loss in boost. Ultimately though, more power will be gained.
* Camshaft and heads. A camshaft with some overlap will leak out some boost through the valves. Better flowing heads react a lot like a better flowing exhaust system.
* Altitude. Elevation plays a big part in how much boost is produced. Those people living in the higher elevations have to spin the blower harder to see boost.
* Condition of engine. An engine with real good sealing rings will ultimately produce more boost than one with worn rings.
* Rpm. An engine that is spun up higher in the rpm range will normally produce more boost.

4 psi of boost will indeed result in disappointment... lol
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Six inch crank pulley and four inch blower pulley. Also, it hasn't been tuned but its running rich. I can't see the tune producing more boost will it? I'm also planning on checking for knock retard.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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well, a few things i see wrong here.. 1- i wouldnt hook to the brake booster. find another vacuum line to take your readings from. 2- the pulley ratios are way off. and 3- upgrade to an 8 rib kit. the 6 rib is askin for troubles with belt slip!
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well, a few things i see wrong here.. 1- i wouldnt hook to the brake booster. find another vacuum line to take your readings from. 2- the pulley ratios are way off. and 3- upgrade to an 8 rib kit. the 6 rib is askin for troubles with belt slip!
What do you mean by the pulley ratios are way off?
I found out that I had a leak at the actual boost gauge, I couldn't here it with the my cut out open and the window down. I'm sure that had something to do with it. Unfortuneately I just ate another belt so something isnt' lined up right. Either that or it's hitting the trans line. So back to the drawing board.
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the ratio is the numbers divided by each other.. like the ratio of your pulleys is 4/6. thats .667:1 thats not gonna get much boost at all! i would guess that you would need more like a 4" blower pulley with a 7.65" crank pulley, so 4/7.65 or a .523:1 ratio for 8psi on a stock engine.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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So with my pullies my weak 4 pounds of boost sounds about right?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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well, between that, a measly 6 rib belt, and a bad place to measure it from such as the brake booster, yea, that seems like a recipe for a 4psi reading on your gauge to me Your problems arent at all big or hard to fix
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I guess I'm getting closer.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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I'm with Chad, pulleys are off if they are what you said. Here is my experience on a 9.7:1 396ci (first 3 are with an LS6 intake, all with a 7.65" crank pulley); 4.5" pulley - 8psi, 3.7" pulley - 13psi, 3.4" pulley - 16psi, 3.4" pulley with Vic. Jr. and no air filter - 19psi.

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well, between that, a measly 6 rib belt, and a bad place to measure it from such as the brake booster, yea, that seems like a recipe for a 4psi reading on your gauge to me Your problems arent at all big or hard to fix
I was at TRP last weekend and some dude thought I was you, lol, sorry to mimic! "Does this car have a ProCharger?" "Yep" "Is that a Mecham hood?" "Yep" "Are you ChevyChad?" "Nope".
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Originally Posted by 'Trust'
...I was at TRP last weekend and some dude thought I was you, lol, sorry to mimic! "Does this car have a ProCharger?" "Yep" "Is that a Mecham hood?" "Yep" "Are you ChevyChad?" "Nope".
lmfao! classic! i should put that in my sig
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Originally Posted by ChevyChad
lmfao! classic! i should put that in my sig
Haha, I feel like such a tool inadvertently copying! When you getting that thing tuned?!
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