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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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I have a friend and I am posting this for him. . .

List of his mods:
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stock truck intake mani. and tb
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arp head studs and rod bolts

He is thinking of running 14 psi on 91 octane (no meth) we figured the compression should be at 8:5:1. He wanted to know if that has been done before and if he had a good enough tune can it be reliable? Also how much WHP have people seen with those mods or what would you guys estimate?
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 02:55 PM
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I am running 12 psi on a BONE STOCK longblock.....and abusing the shizz out of it. I think with the goodies he has, he'd be fine....with a good, conservative tune, of course.

The only thing that scares me is the 91 octane....
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317 heads may not be the best option, the 243 or 241 are a better alternative. 317 were desgined for 4.00 bore. the 241 and 243 will still work with 4.8/5.3 bore.
600bhp possible with correct tune
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stock lm7 scr is 9.4:1
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Originally Posted by NemeSS
stock lm7 scr is 9.4:1
Not with 317 heads.....
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by nissan owner
I have a friend and I am posting this for him. . .

List of his mods:
5.3L LM7 Engine (60k milles on it)
Turbonetics TC 78 - single turbo
317 heads
stock truck intake mani. and tb
LS6 Cam
60LB Injectors
Pushrods, springs
ls6 ported oil pump
arp head studs and rod bolts

He is thinking of running 14 psi on 91 octane (no meth) we figured the compression should be at 8:5:1. He wanted to know if that has been done before and if he had a good enough tune can it be reliable? Also how much WHP have people seen with those mods or what would you guys estimate?
lookup pwrtrip75 on here, he has a very similar combo (except a bigger cam)
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by slow67
Not with 317 heads.....
stock lm7 is 9.4:1
317 will drop the scr considerably, will also have to use 6.0 gaskets.
i would not run 317 on 5.3/4.8 bore
241,243 yes, 317 no
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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A LM7 with 317's should be good to about 15psi or 600whp on 93oct. I would go for about 550whp max on 91oct. It all depends on the combo as a whole though. Sometimes you can make a good bit of power on pump gas with that compression.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 03:34 PM
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Thanks for the information guys...I'll be searching some more.
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If any of you guys have links or any more info feel free to let me know...
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performancetrucks.net plenty of info there.
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I calculated it to 8.6:1 compression. I think the 317s worked good on the 5.3L. Doesnt matter that they were made for a 4.00" bore, just use the 6L head gasket so the fire ring isnt inside the chamber. I ran 15psi and a 50 shot of spray through it for 3 years on the stock bottom end. Still runs like a dream and im looking for another car to stick it in.

I never dynoed it but weighs 3660lbs with me in it and runs consistent 10.30s @ 131mph equates to about 640whp. But the GT45 turbo is rather laggy and also im screaming through the lights cause my 4000 stall converter is blowing through a little. Im shifting at about 7300 and going through the lights near 6000. 29.5" tall tire w/ 3.50 gears.

This was initially just a mock up engine to build the turbo setup and practice tuning on it. I'd never messed with one before. I honeslty never expected it to last more than a month. The cam was just an extra one I had laying around. 224/224 .580/.580 112
And i also have a vic Jr intake on it with an elbow I made. Its got no low end power at all. But it was such a good/cheap effective combo my buddy built one for his BMW w/ a t70.

Mine is very reliable. Gets good gas mileage cruising around and its quiet.
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Yes it's very possible to do. on my 2008 chevy i had a front mount trubo with T76GTS and 14 psi of boost and i never had any problems, i did hit it with 18 psi and 75 shot of nitrous but i used some octain booster. my truck dynod 656 rwhp and 696 rwtq on a mustang dyno and on 14 psi, xms boostaholic II cam and the rest of the motor completly stock.
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Originally Posted by pwrtrip75
I calculated it to 8.6:1 compression. I think the 317s worked good on the 5.3L. Doesnt matter that they were made for a 4.00" bore, just use the 6L head gasket so the fire ring isnt inside the chamber. I ran 15psi and a 50 shot of spray through it for 3 years on the stock bottom end. Still runs like a dream and im looking for another car to stick it in.

I never dynoed it but weighs 3660lbs with me in it and runs consistent 10.30s @ 131mph equates to about 640whp. But the GT45 turbo is rather laggy and also im screaming through the lights cause my 4000 stall converter is blowing through a little. Im shifting at about 7300 and going through the lights near 6000. 29.5" tall tire w/ 3.50 gears.

This was initially just a mock up engine to build the turbo setup and practice tuning on it. I'd never messed with one before. I honeslty never expected it to last more than a month. The cam was just an extra one I had laying around. 224/224 .580/.580 112
And i also have a vic Jr intake on it with an elbow I made. Its got no low end power at all. But it was such a good/cheap effective combo my buddy built one for his BMW w/ a t70.

Mine is very reliable. Gets good gas mileage cruising around and its quiet.
sounds like you have had succes with the 317 on the 5.3.
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Originally Posted by ls1CANTU
Yes it's very possible to do. on my 2008 chevy i had a front mount trubo with T76GTS and 14 psi of boost and i never had any problems, i did hit it with 18 psi and 75 shot of nitrous but i used some octain booster. my truck dynod 656 rwhp and 696 rwtq on a mustang dyno and on 14 psi, xms boostaholic II cam and the rest of the motor completly stock.
think that would be possible with e85 instead of high octane
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Do you guys think stock valve'd 317's are better than 5.3's or 241's or other stock LS head atop a 5.3? I'm planning a simple MP112 + 5.3 combo for my Merc.
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from what ive heard 317's are good to lower compression and flow about as good as 241's if possible 243's would make more power just have higher compression
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Yeah 317's can lower compression up to potentially a half point, I've used them before. I see maggy'd folks reccomending more running 9.5:1 or more... Interesting.
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larger combustion chambers = less valve shrouding. I would guess the 317's would flow better because of that. Perhaps only at low or mid lift, i've never seen any statistics.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Yeah 317's can lower compression up to potentially a half point, I've used them before. I see maggy'd folks recommending more running 9.5:1 or more... Interesting.
wouldnt that be good for more torque and since your not making alot of boost?
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