Virginia Speed forced induction engines
07-08-2009, 05:45 PM
#1
FormerVendor
Thread Starter
iTrader: (3)
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Virginia Beach,Virginia
Posts: 2,991
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
Virginia Speed forced induction engines I'm putting the post up because i have been getting alot of pm's from members on here inquiring about forced induction engines.The problem is alot of people think i trying to overcharge for an engine.So I'm making this post so people can understand what the deal is.
Most of you know it is very easy to make good power with a turbo or supercharger-the problem with alot of these setups is reliability.At Va Speed we focus on 3 things on fi engine:
#1(most important)reliability-i get lots of guys telling me they know somebody that made 700rwhp on stock engines,and why do they need all of these fancy parts-that's great,how long did that stock motor last?You can have all the power in the world,but if it's always broke-what good is it going to do?Not only that,say you do make 700rwhp with a stock ls2-then when it breaks it pretty much destroys everything,now instead of having something you can reuse or sell-it's just scrap metal.What about changing head gaskets every couple of months-what's your time worth,plus the cost of gaskets,coolant,oil.
We have been working very hard to make these ls engine more reliable-instead of just using readily available parts we have been designing and making our own parts to help areas we have seen problems with.Now I'm not saying these motors will NEVER break-no,but they will live a reasonable time when used in their intended purpose-if it's a street engine it should easily go 50,000+ miles with no issues,if its a race engine-should go a full season without issues.I know several guys tell me they are on a budget,my advice is this-wait,save your money and do it correct the first time,it will save you alot of time,money and headaches in the long run.
#2-horsepower-motor isn't worth anything if it don't make power.Our goal is to make the most power with the least amount of cylinder pressure.We use alot of design software to aide in this.Plus having over 10 years experience with supercharged and turbocharged race engines helps.
#3-horsepower where you need it-you can't race dynos.Just because it makes alot of hp on the dyno doesn't mean it going to go fast-each type car requires different things.the needs of a drag race car are different from the needs of a road race car,and even different classes require different things in the engine to make the power where you need it.That's why i spend alot of time going to the track with my customers so i can see and understand where the power is needed and make adjustments to the engine(whether it be cam design,compression or even cylinder heads and intake design)so it works better with that particular combination.
Basically i just want people to know what they are getting when you purchase an engine from us.The price maybe a little higher than some,but i believe it's cheaper in the end.
Most of you know it is very easy to make good power with a turbo or supercharger-the problem with alot of these setups is reliability.At Va Speed we focus on 3 things on fi engine:
#1(most important)reliability-i get lots of guys telling me they know somebody that made 700rwhp on stock engines,and why do they need all of these fancy parts-that's great,how long did that stock motor last?You can have all the power in the world,but if it's always broke-what good is it going to do?Not only that,say you do make 700rwhp with a stock ls2-then when it breaks it pretty much destroys everything,now instead of having something you can reuse or sell-it's just scrap metal.What about changing head gaskets every couple of months-what's your time worth,plus the cost of gaskets,coolant,oil.
We have been working very hard to make these ls engine more reliable-instead of just using readily available parts we have been designing and making our own parts to help areas we have seen problems with.Now I'm not saying these motors will NEVER break-no,but they will live a reasonable time when used in their intended purpose-if it's a street engine it should easily go 50,000+ miles with no issues,if its a race engine-should go a full season without issues.I know several guys tell me they are on a budget,my advice is this-wait,save your money and do it correct the first time,it will save you alot of time,money and headaches in the long run.
#2-horsepower-motor isn't worth anything if it don't make power.Our goal is to make the most power with the least amount of cylinder pressure.We use alot of design software to aide in this.Plus having over 10 years experience with supercharged and turbocharged race engines helps.
#3-horsepower where you need it-you can't race dynos.Just because it makes alot of hp on the dyno doesn't mean it going to go fast-each type car requires different things.the needs of a drag race car are different from the needs of a road race car,and even different classes require different things in the engine to make the power where you need it.That's why i spend alot of time going to the track with my customers so i can see and understand where the power is needed and make adjustments to the engine(whether it be cam design,compression or even cylinder heads and intake design)so it works better with that particular combination.
Basically i just want people to know what they are getting when you purchase an engine from us.The price maybe a little higher than some,but i believe it's cheaper in the end.
BOSS APPROVED!
Trending Topics
07-09-2009, 12:09 PM
#9
I agree and wish I spent a little more money on my first FI motor. Could you build an engine to last 100,000 miles? Sure, you wrote 50,000+, but that could be 50,000 + 1 mile. I'm going to fix my APS trash (if LG stops increasing their price!) and will probably keep it at 0.5 bar indefinitely, so my goal isn't too extraordinary.
07-09-2009, 06:48 PM
#12
Well said both on the part of Shawn and Cobrakiller! Even in my limited experience dealing with customers wanting out for cheap, I know how frustrating it can be trying to explain to someone why they need something that won't actually net them better ETs or power.
07-09-2009, 07:08 PM
#13
Launching!
iTrader: (12)
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Mesa, Az
Posts: 296
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have 2 Virginia Speed built FI motors and there working very well. People these days want something for nothing, in the end you always pay when you start making power. Some guys save up and do it right the first time, others finance there way into builds that take them years to sort out because they cut corners.
11-11-2009, 03:47 PM
#15
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (22)
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: San Antonio Tx
Posts: 704
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I agree with you shawn and honestly I didn't think your prices were higher than anyone else. I am definately having my engine built by Virginia Speed. You can't pay enough for experience in engine building, especially when it comes to forced induction builds.
11-11-2009, 05:43 PM
#17
10 Second Club
iTrader: (5)
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Cali/Bay Area
Posts: 3,412
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I really think Shawn has some good prices for what you are getting in return. Would be doing my BBC right now if not for other circumstances on how I'm doing the build. I'd have no problem giving him my business in the future...
11-11-2009, 07:12 PM
#19
Launching!
iTrader: (55)
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Valley Center, CA
Posts: 271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hey shawn, I was wondering if you could get back to me about the double o'ringing my block. I called a few times to talk to you and they told me to pm you. I have and would like to hear back. Thanks. C. J.
11-12-2009, 08:12 AM
#20
8 Second Club
iTrader: (18)
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Waterloo, Ontario
Posts: 2,609
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Shawn knows his **** and is a super easy guy to talk too. I'll give you a shout next bro, I'm off to Indiana today to try get this slug into the 8's.
