anyone on here roll around without a front swaybar?
anyone on here roll around without a front swaybar? just waht it says, i put the intercooler down flat, and the front sway bar wont clear it. any suggestions?
I can move the intercooler but I dont know where to. any help is appericated.
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ed
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I can move the intercooler but I dont know where to. any help is appericated.
thanks
ed
firebird455@onebox.com
I drive that way everyday. Took it off for the track once and neverput it back on. You can feel the difference...in normal driving and big time when trying to corner hard going fast and on the freeway.... i just slow down. I might put it back on for winter driving though.
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
I drive with it off all the time. It hasent been one from the day it came off. with adj shocks up front and a STB, you can barly tell it is out, till you MASH it, and the nose is sky high! And it is 14lbs off the very front!
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I wonder why someone h asn't made a super-lightweight version of the front swaybar. It seems like a front swaybar that weighed, maybe 5 to 7 lbs and performed nearly as well would sell like crazy, as easy a mod as it would be.
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It's not so much the weight, but the torsional advantage. The front swaybar acts on the opposite corner. That means as the car torques over the swaybar is unloading the wrong corner. It works against the launch, but for the corner. Like the man said, slow down in the corners...
It's always a trade off...
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It's always a trade off...
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Thanks for the insight, SS00Blue... I didn't realize that.
I talked to Spohn, also, who said most aftermarket swaybars are larger and heavier, because people buying them are usually looking for better handling (which I knew) and the stock swaybar may actually be the lightest anyone could find.
I guess I thought someone aftermarket may be able to accomplish both more rigidity AND lightness. But, as you say, the lesser weight is not the major gain removing the front swaybar gains.
I talked to Spohn, also, who said most aftermarket swaybars are larger and heavier, because people buying them are usually looking for better handling (which I knew) and the stock swaybar may actually be the lightest anyone could find.
I guess I thought someone aftermarket may be able to accomplish both more rigidity AND lightness. But, as you say, the lesser weight is not the major gain removing the front swaybar gains.
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I was researching this topic recently wondering if I could live without the sway bar on my car and it's sorta funny how it seems the folks who've taken their Sway bar off seem to indicate that while handling is affected a bit, it's not as bad as those who've never taken their sway bar off make it out to be, like if you took a slight corner at 20mph your going to skid off the road. In fact one of the posts I read a guy said the only way he'd really miss the swaybar was if he was big into AutoX or basic corner carving.. For everyday driving, etc there was hardly any noticeable difference in handling.
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
I drive with slicks, a spool, front shocks at 3-4 and still hardly effected by no sway bar. Take it out, worst case you spend 15 min putting it back in!
Nothing to loose.
Nothing to loose.
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Originally Posted by Noyzee
I drive with slicks, a spool, front shocks at 3-4 and still hardly effected by no sway bar. Take it out, worst case you spend 15 min putting it back in!
Nothing to loose.
Nothing to loose.
Does the front suspension have to be off the ground to remove the bar?
Thanks.
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Are you willing to sacrifice your handling and rigidity, for a measly 12-15lbs. You can remove something else in the car, to compensate for the extra weight the swaybar might add! I'm pretty sure, aftermarket swaybars would be a bit lighter than a factory one. I know mine was.(TRD) Do you even have the supporting mods, incase you do take off the swaybar? Example: struts,shocks,springs,bushings,etc..... I'm pretty sure, taking off the swaybar would affect the characteristics of the car, in more ways than one. If it were me, I wouldn't do it. I say handling first, speed second. Just think if that role was reversed(speed then handling). Look at the situations that might occur, if you don't have the proper setup. High speed runs, trying to take a right before the light turns red(on comming traffic). Do you want to have access understeer, or oversteer. I also think it can affects the way you brake too. Not sure on this one, so please don't hold me to it. Just my 2 cents.
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From: East Side Performance! mASShole
The car doesnt have to be off the ground. and it is not just 14lbs, weight transfer!!!!!
I would recomend a set of sub frames and adj shocks, But i have had a stb in and out, you cant even tell.
DONT listen to people that have never tried it,Try it your self, let us know how it works, and let us know if you run faster.
Dont forget, if your going to take it off make sure you do it all and pull the brackets to.
I would recomend a set of sub frames and adj shocks, But i have had a stb in and out, you cant even tell.
DONT listen to people that have never tried it,Try it your self, let us know how it works, and let us know if you run faster.
Dont forget, if your going to take it off make sure you do it all and pull the brackets to.
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I don't think you would need to try something, if you already know the basic physics of what might occur(C-B, doesn't always equal A). The swaybar was placed there for a reason. If it didn't come with one, you all would be the first to put one on!
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Yes it might help the 60ft, but what about the 1/4 mile? I would want to be as safe as possible, going the speeds you guys do.