Head studs, Hex nut vs 12 point nut input wanted
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (19)
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 2
From: Alexandria La.
Head studs, Hex nut vs 12 point nut input wanted I'm getting ready to order my stuff to put m 317's on and wanted to know what the difference in the hex nuts & 12 points other than the socket need to tighten them?
Also, I wanted to know if I need moly lube on the block end or head end?
If lock tight, red or blue? And lastly when threading the stud into the block does it go in hand tight or torqued to a specific amount?
Also, I wanted to know if I need moly lube on the block end or head end?
If lock tight, red or blue? And lastly when threading the stud into the block does it go in hand tight or torqued to a specific amount?
8 sec potential, 12 sec slip
iTrader: (50)
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,092
Likes: 2
From: Savannah, GA
They say that with the 12 point studs, you get more contact area from the socket, but in my experience, the 12 points are entirely way too easy to strip inadvertantly. Even when you are being extra careful. If I ever have to buy new studs again, I'm goin for 6 point.
No lube needed on the end you thread into the block, just get them hand tight, then take an allen wrench to them all and make sure they are all seated against the bottom of the hole. No need to torque them super tight or anything, just all by hand with the allen wrench. Do NOT use loctite on the threads going into the block. I did that on my last engine, and they were a BITCH to get out! Its also not recommended (now I know why!)
You only use the ARP lube on the top threads of the studs and inside the nuts for good measure.
No lube needed on the end you thread into the block, just get them hand tight, then take an allen wrench to them all and make sure they are all seated against the bottom of the hole. No need to torque them super tight or anything, just all by hand with the allen wrench. Do NOT use loctite on the threads going into the block. I did that on my last engine, and they were a BITCH to get out! Its also not recommended (now I know why!)
You only use the ARP lube on the top threads of the studs and inside the nuts for good measure.
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (19)
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 2
From: Alexandria La.
They say that with the 12 point studs, you get more contact area from the socket, but in my experience, the 12 points are entirely way too easy to strip inadvertantly. Even when you are being extra careful. If I ever have to buy new studs again, I'm goin for 6 point.
No lube needed on the end you thread into the block, just get them hand tight, then take an allen wrench to them all and make sure they are all seated against the bottom of the hole. No need to torque them super tight or anything, just all by hand with the allen wrench. Do NOT use loctite on the threads going into the block. I did that on my last engine, and they were a BITCH to get out! Its also not recommended (now I know why!)
You only use the ARP lube on the top threads of the studs and inside the nuts for good measure.
No lube needed on the end you thread into the block, just get them hand tight, then take an allen wrench to them all and make sure they are all seated against the bottom of the hole. No need to torque them super tight or anything, just all by hand with the allen wrench. Do NOT use loctite on the threads going into the block. I did that on my last engine, and they were a BITCH to get out! Its also not recommended (now I know why!)
You only use the ARP lube on the top threads of the studs and inside the nuts for good measure.
1 last question, do the studs come with the lube or do I have to buy that seprate?
8 sec potential, 12 sec slip
iTrader: (50)
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 4,092
Likes: 2
From: Savannah, GA
Ive bought a couple sets new. One came with a small sample pack that was just enough to do one install, and the other didnt come with any at all. I guess its just hit and miss with ARP. I'd go ahead and just purchase a tube of it though when you order the studs. The $5 tube goes a LONG way. I've lost count of head installs ive done with that tube o' lube I got a couple years ago 
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (19)
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 2
From: Alexandria La.
Ive bought a couple sets new. One came with a small sample pack that was just enough to do one install, and the other didnt come with any at all. I guess its just hit and miss with ARP. I'd go ahead and just purchase a tube of it though when you order the studs. The $5 tube goes a LONG way. I've lost count of head installs ive done with that tube o' lube I got a couple years ago
Trending Topics
LS1 Tech Stories
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
6 Gifts Neither Your Dad Nor Grad Will Shove Into the 'Trinket Drawer'
Brett Foote
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?
Pouria Savadkouei
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine
Verdad Gallardo
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built
Verdad Gallardo
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin
Verdad Gallardo
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them
Pouria Savadkouei
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked
Pouria Savadkouei
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
iTrader: (19)
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 2
From: Alexandria La.
So in short, lubricate ALL of the possible friction points.
